After Win 10 Clean Install, Can't Install Nvidia Driver - Help!

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    Faith said: View Post
    DCH will be the latest driver format going forward on Windows 10, particularly for OEMs and new pre-built systems. Intel, Realtek and AMD also support UWD drivers. Not sure if there's much of a difference other than how the driver is being pushed and what's being compiled. The DCH version of the Nvidia driver doesn't include the Control panel for example and must be downloaded through the Microsoft Store. I use the standard driver personally, but I don't see any harm in using the DCH Version if your system is compatible.
    Hi faith,

    Fyi, I custom built my PC. Does this mean I should download the DCH version?
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    yahanna said: View Post
    Hi faith,

    Fyi, I custom built my PC. Does this mean I should download the DCH version?
    It's up to you and what you feel is best/easiest, but you need to install the DCH versions once Windows have installed it for you if you want to continue to update them manually without removing the driver completely to use the standard set instead. If you want to use standard then remove the current DCH driver using DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) and install the latest standard driver without an internet connection. Nvidia offers both on their website, I linked you the latest DCH WHQL driver if you want to continue to use DCH. I am going to build a new system later this year and I will probably use the DCH driver because it's going to be pushed automatically once I install Windows and I honestly don't feel like removing it. I will use GFE anyway. DCH Vs Standard doesn't mean anything really because there's no real difference between them other than how it's being pushed or compiled. It's the same driver to my knowledge. If anything the DCH have a higher numeric version for the Control Panel on the MS Store, not that it matters. DCH/UWD will be the future of drivers on Windows going forward, at least for OEMs. Geforce Experience will detect and install the correct driver for you aswell.

    PS: I am no software guru or engineer so feel free to correct me, but the gist of it is this: Microsoft is shifting over to a new driver architecture called UWD (universal Windows Drivers) - or DCH for the acronyms of the actual model - on Windows 10 1809 and later that lets them (nvidia, Intel, AMD etc) develop a single package for multiple devices more efficiently. The new requirement format or standard by Microsoft is there to make it easier for developers to develop drivers with. Part of the requirement is also to release the control panel through the Microsoft Store instead of the installer base.
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    Faith said: View Post
    It's up to you and what you feel is best/easiest, but you need to install the DCH versions once Windows have installed it for you if you want to continue to update them manually without removing the driver completely to use the standard set instead.
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    Hi Faith,

    I forgot to ask you a question.. when I use your method of installing the nvidia DCH driver, can I install the 3D vision driver also as an additional option during the install process?
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    yahanna said: View Post
    Hi Faith,

    I forgot to ask you a question.. when I use your method of installing the nvidia DCH driver, can I install the 3D vision driver also as an additional option during the install process?
    You should get the same installer on .exe where you can choose a custom install, it should be there. However, 3D vision will not get continued support on Windows 1903 and future drivers unfortunately. 418.xx are the latest supported drivers for 3D Vision and its controllers, with April 2020 it being completely dropped.
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    You should get the same installer on .exe where you can choose a custom install, it should be there. However, 3D vision will not get continued support on Windows 1903 and future drivers unfortunately. 418.xx are the latest supported drivers for 3D Vision and its controllers, with April 2020 it being completely dropped.
    Hi faith,

    Appreciate your reply. I got 3 questions for you...

    1) Someone suggested that I install the main driver first for stability, not the 3d vision driver. What do you think?

    2) And why wont 3d vision be supported in future win 10?

    3) Do you think its wise to update the nvidia driver through device manager? It allows me to update it that way.. but I want to know what you think.
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    yahanna said: View Post
    Hi faith,

    Appreciate your reply. I got 3 questions for you...

    1) Someone suggested that I install the main driver first for stability, not the 3d vision driver. What do you think?

    2) And why wont 3d vision be supported in future win 10?

    3) Do you think its wise to update the nvidia driver through device manager? It allows me to update it that way.. but I want to know what you think.
    1) 3d vision is included in most of them for drivers up to 430.xx. If you want to continue to use 3d vision you need to stick with a 418.xx driver.

    Nvidia said:
    Following the posting of the final driver from Release 418 in April 2019, GeForce Game Ready Drivers will no longer support NVIDIA 3D Vision. The NVIDIA support team will continue to address critical driver issues for 3D Vision in Release 418 through April, 2020. Those looking to utilize 3D Vision can remain on a Release 418 driver.
    Support Plan for 3DVision Products | NVIDIA

    But I don't see how the 3d vision driver and its controller will cause instability for you. Some users makes a minimalistic install (unchecking everything and using a slim utility) to root cause an issue or to have full control over the installation, but I doubt 3d vision will cause any issues for you and the majority of users. If you don't want it you can exclude it in the install. If you don't care you can simply run the Express installer instead of custom and it will grab everything for you.

    2) 3D vision has been dying for a while now with a declining userbase and lack of support by developers. Putting two together it's telling why they're axing it. It's unfortunate for people still using it, but it's not a surprise really.

    3) No. You should run the executable, especially if it's the DCH driver you're looking for. Don't uninstall them in the device manager either as it can cause issues later on.
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    1) 3d vision is included in most of them for drivers up to 430.xx. If you want to continue to use 3d vision you need to stick with a 418.xx driver. Support Plan for 3DVision Products | NVIDIA
    But I don't see how the 3d vision driver and its controller will cause instability for you. Some users makes a minimalistic install (unchecking everything and using a slim utility) to root cause an issue or to have full control over the installation, but I doubt 3d vision will cause any issues for you and the majority of users. If you don't want it you can exclude it in the install. If you don't care you can simply run the Express installer instead of custom and it will grab everything for you.
    2) 3D vision has been dying for a while now with a declining userbase and lack of support by developers. Putting two together it's telling why they're axing it. It's unfortunate for people still using it, but it's not a surprise really. 3) No. You should run the executable, especially if it's the DCH driver you're looking for. Don't uninstall them in the device manager either as it can cause issues later on.
    Hi faith,

    Appreciate that heads up. I'll be installing just the driver alone then. Thanks dude.
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