Windows 10: Advise on disabling services

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  1. Posts : 176
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 1709
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       09 Dec 2017 #11

    I just want to know which ones are not safe and must not be disabled, I must disable AJRouter when I don't use their service, Auto Time Zone Updater when absolutely not needed, BitLocker Drive Encryption, when never use it, etc...
    I just want from my list, remove the ones that makes problems.
    For example, which ones from my list disable WIFI or VPN services?
    Thanks,
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  2.    09 Dec 2017 #12

    Why do you wish to disable system services?

    The problem is that there are many services on your list that may cause problems if disabled. Nobody can know for certain which ones they are. It would take a long time to go through the list to make even an educated guess about each service. And that guess may be wrong. Microsoft does not publish a full description of what each service does. A service may be safe to disable today but may cause problems after the next Windows update, or after the next application you install, or after the next update to an application. There will likely be no obvious relationship with the problem to the disabled service, or even that the problem had anything to do with a service at all. Most applications that rely on a service will simply fail if it is not running with no hint of the cause.
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  3.    09 Dec 2017 #13

    Press the Win Key+R. In the Run box type msconfig and press enter. Go to the Services tab put a check box in Hide All Microsoft Services so as to not disable them. Any other services left can be unchecked (Disabled) Go to the Startup Tab, click the Open Task Manager, under the Startup tab you can uncheck (disable) all Startup items. Now restart. Any programs that stop working correctly need to have their services Enabled again in msconfig. You do not need any startup items except for Anti-Virus etc.
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  4.    09 Dec 2017 #14

    As previously posted, just set the ones you think need to be disabled to manual and if they are needed they will start. I at the moment have 128 Processes running and not too much info on what they are.
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  5.    09 Dec 2017 #15

    Setting a service to Manual is not a safe alternative to disabling it. This is only safe for services that by default are set to Manual start. A Manual start service can be started by the system or an application if it is needed. But that is by no means a guarantee it will happen. In many cases when an application fails because of a non running service the application doesn't know the cause.
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  6.    09 Dec 2017 #16

    LMiller7 said: View Post
    Setting a service to Manual is not a safe alternative to disabling it. This is only safe for services that by default are set to Manual start. A Manual start service can be started by the system or an application if it is needed. But that is by no means a guarantee it will happen. In many cases when an application fails because of a non running service the application doesn't know the cause.
    Well then Nigel seems to disagree and so do I. If Windows does not start it then logic says that it is not needed.:)

    That all being said it is up to the user to decide what to do with their system.
    Last edited by Josey Wales; 09 Dec 2017 at 20:02.
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  7.    09 Dec 2017 #17

    which ones from my list disable WIFI or VPN services?
    I would start with these:
    Code:
    ::Network Location Awareness
    SC Config NlaSvc Start=Disabled
    SC Stop NlaSvc
    
    ::Peer Name Resolution Protocol
    SC Config PNRPsvc Start=Disabled
    SC Stop PNRPsvc
    
    ::Peer Networking Identity Manager
    SC Config p2pimsvc Start=Disabled
    SC Stop p2pimsvc
    
    ::Remote Procedure Call Endpoint Mapper
    ::SC Config RpcEptMapper Start=Disabled
    ::SC Stop RpcEptMapper
    
    ::Server
    SC Config LanmanServer Start=Disabled
    SC Stop LanmanServer
    
    ::SSDP Discovery
    SC Config SSDPSRV Start=Disabled
    SC Stop SSDPSRV
    
    ::Workstation
    SC Config LanmanWorkstation Start=Disabled
    SC Stop LanmanWorkstation
    With these enabled, disable one at a time until failure with WiFi or VPN.

    Personally, Network Location Awareness should stay Automatic. (And the last one to be disabled?)
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    Windows 7/64 Professional
       09 Dec 2017 #18

    The problem as I see it is simple but yet very complicated.

    Example:

    One disables Microsoft "A" service because they don't use it or need it.
    The problem is disabling "A" service effects B, C, D and maybe more services.
    Microsoft does not publish what works with what. So when disabling 1 thing you don't need can effect several things you do need or want.
    The simple part is we don't know what works with what, that is why it has been recommended by several to just leave Microsoft Services alone.

    Now, if it's your computer you can turn off what ever you want. We only give recommendation and are thoughts.
    Their is a cure if one bonks their computer. It's called a "Clean Install".
    I been there done that. Thank you Black Viper.

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  9.    09 Dec 2017 #19

    omidsolo said: View Post
    I just want to know which ones are not safe and must not be disabled, I must disable AJRouter when I don't use their service, Auto Time Zone Updater when absolutely not needed, BitLocker Drive Encryption, when never use it, etc...
    I just want from my list, remove the ones that makes problems.
    For example, which ones from my list disable WIFI or VPN services?
    Thanks,
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    Edit:
    In an ideal world, Services setup of a new version must be done after a clean install.
    Last edited by MikeMecanic; 13 Dec 2017 at 16:00.
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  10. Posts : 176
    Windows 10 Enterprise x64 1709
    Thread Starter
       10 Dec 2017 #20

    Thanks for advise, well you're right, although if disabling service A has negative effect on service B, it's message boxed at the time of disabling service A, but, yes you're right, maybe MS hide something else inside service A or B and no one knows what's going on...
    I have removed a lot of the list and updated my original post with the new code though.
    If anyone see something there that MUST NOT be disabled, I will thank him for his advise :)
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