Windows 10: In Windows 10 v1709 how do I get Task Scheduler Credentials to work?

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  1.    28 Nov 2017 #11

    Does powercfg not tell you the reason for waking?

    You seem to have assumed it is this one task scheduler entry but I can't see why.

    For me \Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Reboot is a disabled task (which I can toggle on and off the wake computer box incidentally). It is triggered when I reboot to do whatever it does. That is it runs when I reboot - it doesn't trigger the reboot.

    I don't see why you think it wakes the computer. Not saying it doesn't but I can't understand why you think it does.

    Just for interest in case it is useful, S-1-5-18 is SECURITY_LOCAL_SYSTEM_RID (A special account used by the operating system) - see Well-known SIDs (Windows) It doesn't have a password.

    The C:\Windows\System32\Tasks\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Reboot object (on my PC) is owned by Administrators group with LOCAL SERVICE and Administrators having Read/Execute authority and SYSTEM having full control. You should be able to (and I can) change it if you are part of the Administrators group. You don't need the built in Administrator.

    What does powercfg /lastwake show anyway? Anything interesting?
    Last edited by lx07; 28 Nov 2017 at 07:20.
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  2. Posts : 47
    Windows 10 v1607 Pro 64 bit
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       28 Nov 2017 #12

    Hi Ix07

    Reboot:
    Reply for "why you think it wakes the computer": I couldn't find anything else to check that I hadn't already checked. That is why I asked TenForums. I reasoned that Reboot was just a settings log (.txt) summary. I've been looking for check-boxes that have WakeToRun functionality such as mouse, keyboard and network adapter. Task Scheduler have a few.

    One of my basic computer boxes with just a power cable and monitor attached will wake from hibernate randomly; I have three Dell computers doing it. I've placed two into Shutdown. I couldn't find a virus. The older Dell GX620 with a clean installation of Windows 10 v 1709 from Microsoft's web site completed with Windows Updates and no 3rd Party software wakes randomly. I am working on a Dell 755 which is newer.

    powercfg /lastwake
    Nothing indicated... I've done wake timers and wake-armed.

    Shutdown
    Performs perfectly.
    Hibernate
    Wakes sporadically.

    Temporary conclusion: My computers are not compatible with Windows 10 V 1709.

    Puzzled.
    Edit Post script: I have a raw Windows 10 v 1709 without updates that I can run. My W10 v1709 with Updates wakes. I can see if it is an update. The Dell GX620 (Pentium 4) with most tasks disabled is blisteringly fast after the reduction (similar to the Dual Core) but wakes. I used Glary Utilities 5 to strip them out and also used the link below and did it manually:

    See link:

    Scheduled Tasks - Eliminating Most is a Good Thing - Windows 10 - MSFN
    Scheduled Tasks - Eliminating Most is a Good Thing - Windows 10 - MSFN

    It started with V1703..
    Last edited by SimonFastEddy; 30 Nov 2017 at 06:23.
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  3. Posts : 47
    Windows 10 v1607 Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       10 Dec 2017 #13

    From SimonFastEddy... Work in progress:

    I've been stripping-out registry items; you will have to adjust permissions but it is easy from the registry in comparison to Task Scheduler.:
    LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\Control Set 001\Control\Ubpm

    This is the location of CriticalTask_UsoReboot
    It also locates other suspect items such as maintenance tasks. So far I've Deleted all the UpdateOrchestrator items and I am working through CriticalMaintenance items.

    I do a Restart each sweep-out...

    Outcome: The computer still wakes randomly. LOCAL_MACHINE is protected by Restore Points OK but take a System Image also if you care to participate in the trash-and-burn of Microsoft products.
    Temporary end...
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