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  1.    1 Week Ago #1
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Tennessee
    Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Home/64bit

    Unresponsive Taskbar


    Edition is Windows 10 Home
    Version 1709
    OS Build 16299.19

    If further information is needed about my computers' specs, they are listed and up to date.

    I have read various threads in separate forums on this site and was wondering if an update fix has been released in regards to the various problems associated with the Fall Creators Update (FCU) version 1709?

    I know the sign out/sign back in trick works to get the task bar to be responsive again; but there are various other bugs I have encountered with this current OS build. When ejecting USB sticks, the icon is unresponsive...........well I could go on and on about the unresponsiveness of the task and start bar problems; but it got me to thinking about something.

    I have used and employed many of the great workarounds presented by the great minds of this site and forums on this site and at many lengths the fixes suggested by members have worked. I draw the line at editing the registry, although I have successfully done it many times in the past in Windows 7 Home Edition.

    The reason I won't edit certain things in the registry now, is because I am uncertain what the long term effects will be on future releases of OS builds. Is it possible that when a new OS build is released and we can't wait for fixes because we are anxious to use our computers, that when we edit the registry we are somehow interfering with how the new OS builds react with our current registry editing?

    Well, I sort of went off track there, but I sometimes wonder if just leaving the registry alone (I haven't touched Windows 10 registry ever) would alleviate half the problems that are being reported. Then again, I have heard of this problem (the one I'm asking about if there is an update fix for) existing on clean installs of the current OS build I'm referring to. Also, I wonder if the workarounds cause the conflicts in new OS releases as well.

    So to wrap this up, is there a way to fix the task and start bar problems in this latest OS build for the FCU?
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  2.    1 Week Ago #2
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,869
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    There are 2 options, which could help, the first actually mentions your problem:

    Run Windows Explorer Folders In A Separate Process To Prevent System Freeze


    DesktopProcess can be done only via registry, it supplements the first tweak. Both work since XP:
    Code:
    reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced" /v "SeparateProcess" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
    reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer" /v "DesktopProcess" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f

    You could also create a shortcut to restart explorer.exe (taskbar) when needed:
    Code:
    taskkill /im explorer.exe /f & explorer.exe
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  3.    1 Week Ago #3
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Tennessee
    Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Home/64bit
    Thread Starter

    There are 2 options, which could help, the first actually mentions your problem:

    Run Windows Explorer Folders In A Separate Process To Prevent System Freeze


    DesktopProcess can be done only via registry, it supplements the first tweak. Both work since XP:
    [CODE]reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced" /v "SeparateProcess" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f
    reg add "HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer" /v "DesktopProcess" /t REG_DWORD /d "1" /f

    I have this so far:

    What do I name the new value and what does /f represent? I know how to set the value data to "1" but I need to know what to name the REG_DWORD first.
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  4.    1 Week Ago #4
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,869
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    You can just copy the above code to CMD.
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  5.    1 Week Ago #5
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Tennessee
    Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Home/64bit
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    You can just copy the above code to CMD.
    O.K.-------Thank you, that is different than what I was trying to do. As you can see in my above post, I actually created the new key "SeparateProcess" and that was not necessary.

    I'll report back if the registry tweak solved the problem or not.
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  6.    1 Week Ago #6
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Tennessee
    Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Home/64bit
    Thread Starter

    Problem still persists.


    I tried to reproduce the problem of the task bar being unresponsive by restarting/rebooting the computer and the registry tweaks worked five times and on the sixth try, the problem came back. I also tried to reproduce the problem by shutting completely down and starting from a cold boot. The problem persisted with that sequence too.

    The event viewer threw out two errors associated with this happening:
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  7.    1 Week Ago #7
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,869
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    That seems to the problem with the new shell rather than with taskbar. Terminating it will restart it.

    Code:
    taskkill /f /im ShellExperienceHost.exe
    It looks more like a driver problem then. Try to check with Driver Easy Free.
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  8.    1 Week Ago #8
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Tennessee
    Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Home/64bit
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    That seems to the problem with the new shell rather than with taskbar. Terminating it will restart it.

    Code:
    taskkill /f /im ShellExperienceHost.exe
    It looks more like a driver problem then. Try to check with Driver Easy Free.
    Does the driver easy charge anything? Nevermind, of course they do. Besides, windows update works with device manager now to take care of outdated drivers.
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  9.    1 Week Ago #9
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Trnava
    Posts : 2,869
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64

    Quote Originally Posted by EyeInTheSky View Post
    Does the drivereasy charge anything?
    Free version will find out, what drivers are outdated, and lets you to download at a slow speed.
    But once you have the version number, you can google it or download from Microsoft Update Catalog
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  10.    1 Week Ago #10
    Join Date : Apr 2017
    Tennessee
    Posts : 34
    Windows 10 Home/64bit
    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    Free version will find out, what drivers are outdated, and lets you to download at a slow speed.
    But once you have the version number, you can google it or download from Microsoft Update Catalog
    Thank you!

    You read my mind! I was just going to ask you that. Let me find out what is going on with my drivers and I will get back with some results.
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