Windows 10: Question on Windows 10 Shutdown and login

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  1.    07 Nov 2017 #1

    Question on Windows 10 Shutdown and login


    I just upgraded to the new Windows 10 1709 from 1703. I have this weird issue.

    I have fast startup turned off, so the issue isn't related to that.

    I shut down the computer normally, then, I reboot, get to the login screen, and its like my user account doesn't "log off". If I hit the shut down, it says I'm logged in and if I shut down that I'll lose any unsaved work. I proceed to log in, and it logs in incredibly fast, almost like clicking the lock button.

    Does version 1709 not do a full log off anymore, and does this to speed up the login process? Any help is appreciated.

    PS, it also does it on a clean install.
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  2. Posts : 37,567
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       07 Nov 2017 #2

    Hi there. That's strange. Well, I can say it shouldn't do that and doesn't do it on mine, which is also a clean install. I notice we have similar systems as well.

    Is this an MS or local account?
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  3.    07 Nov 2017 #3

    Both. I have upgraded 6 systems already and all of them do the same thing. And, also if I have open programs, after I reboot, the programs auto launch right back to where they were before the restart. Almost like it's saving my session and not completely shutting down the system.

    I'm about ready to revert all systems back to 1703.
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       07 Nov 2017 #4

    Very strange indeed. I take it you work IT? If so, are these business systems with Enterprise on them? Are they identical hardware?
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  5.    07 Nov 2017 #5

    3 are work systems and 3 are home PCs. No. All are Windows 10 Pro. All Are AM3+ systems, except one is an Intel system, and still the same behavior. I just found another thread showing others having the same issue.

    Apparently they call it a quick shutdown, where the OS doesn't log you out, but it instead saves your login state, then shuts down Windows. After reboot, your session is basically restored and everything is back to the way it was "for most programs"

    Seems to me it's more broken functionality than an improvement.
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  6. Posts : 37,567
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       07 Nov 2017 #6

    TBO I've never heard of it. There is Cortana that pops up as a notification that saved last few apps, which is handy, but kind of lame cuz one can only open one program, then it disappears.

    Sorry I don't have a solution for you. If you could link that other thread I'd appreciate it. Good luck tp you.
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       07 Nov 2017 #7

    The shutdown command has extra switches that shutdown the computer but save any registered programs/login info.

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  8.    07 Nov 2017 #8

    But why did they implement that into the start menu/shutdown and restart command? I liked it where during a shutdown or restart, you save your work, end your session on user account, shut down, reboot, login from a fresh login state. That's how I like it. I don't like that MS has to keep changing stuff. Why fix it if it's not broken
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       07 Nov 2017 #9

    Here's the link, I have not read it but should be some setting to revert.
    Shutdown: Allow system to be shut down without having to log on
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  10.    07 Nov 2017 #10

    Not what I'm looking for.

    What I'm looking for, is when I shut down, and I have open programs, Windows will say there is a program preventing windows from shutting down, so I could either force restart/shutdown, or, cancel the shutdown, go back in and save my work, then shut down the PC.

    As of 1709, I can have 10 programs open, the computer shuts down, restarts, and after login, every single program I had open before, will open back up in the same place they were before the shut down. Not acceptable
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