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  1.    2 Weeks Ago #41
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    I am at the screen after clicking troubleshoot, but I dont know what to do. I see no 'startup options' menu that leads to restart.

    The instructions are not good.
    How can I get into safe mode?

    The next steps you need to take to boot into Safe Mode are the same ones we showed in the second method from this guide, which is to follow this path: “Troubleshoot -> Advanced options -> Startup Settings -> Restart.” Then, press the 4 or the F4 key on your keyboard boot into minimal Safe Mode, press 5 or F5 to boot into “Safe Mode with Networking,” or press 6 or F6 to go into “Safe Mode with Command Prompt.”
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  2.    2 Weeks Ago #42
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    Boot into Safe Mode on Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials

    I found alternate instructions
    However I would like safe mode with networking, not sure what safe mode minimal is?

    Type bcdedit /set {default} safeboot minimal and press Enter
    Last edited by Brink; 2 Weeks Ago at 09:02. Reason: updated link
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  3.    2 Weeks Ago #43
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    It seems you can restore the F8 legacy safe mode using this recovery drive.

    Enable or Disable F8 Advanced Boot Options in Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials

    You’ll need a Windows 10 Recovery Drive, which hopefully you created while your PC was working. Boot the Recovery Drive and select your keyboard layout. Then select Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Command Prompt. At the command prompt, enter these three lines, making sure to hit Enter at the end of each one:


    • c:
    • bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
    • exit



    Select Turn off your PC. Boot the computer and repeatedly press and release F8 until the Advanced Boot Options menu pops up. Then you can select Safe Mode or Safe Mode with Networking.
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  4.    2 Weeks Ago #44
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    This worked well, F8 functionality restored.
    I booted into safe mode.
    I deleted the driver using ddu
    I tried to again install nvidia driver, it fails.

    So I am using ddu again

    How can I get a working nvidia driver to install?


    c:
    bcdedit /set {default} bootmenupolicy legacy
    exit
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  5.    2 Weeks Ago #45
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    Would this help it install? How to logon as administrator?
    I cant believe I cant install the driver.


    https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/992713/cannot-install-driver-pls-help/

    Ok guys so I managed to install the driver finally. I just logged in as admnistrator on Windows 10 and wala! The driver installed without a hitch. Anyways thought some of you may give this a try (honestly I have no idea why my account isnt the admnistrator as its my rig, but whatever)
    I fear that windows will try and install that borked driver again locking me out and will have to reboot again into safe mode to remove it.
    Got to have a working video driver to watch TV on this PC.

    Although I being the only user am an administrator supposedly.
    Enable or Disable Elevated Administrator account in Windows 10 User Accounts Tutorials
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  6.    2 Weeks Ago #46
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    Windows managed to reset itself as it was at the beginning. It is running an old driver 341.27, which it self installs. I can not install a driver myself.

    The video is again jerky looking.

    If you watch the spining nvidia logo thing, you will see it halts, is not smooth spinning, so when you watch TV it is chopped up looking.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/vYvpzR1Yzj7e62Ft2

    It is no good to watch jerking TV, I will have to go back to win7, if I can not resolve this.
    Without a driver installed, there is no jerking video, so it is the driver. I can not believe the card is defective. I could believe Nvidia has cripple wared the driver for this older card though! Maybe to force you into buying a newer one.

    I will have to pull a newer video card out from another PC to test this out. But IMO, should not have to do that. Makes a lot of work for me. I already lost 2 days of stressing dealing with this.
    All the TV programs require accelerated video, youtube does not. Without the driver, youtube is smooth, with the driver it is jerky, so you naturally think it is a driver issue..
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  7.    1 Week Ago #47
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    The jerky video problem just disappeared, all by itself, I mean I did nothing.
    Right after 8:00 pm. Suddenly I notice, all the video is smooth. An hour earlier it got so bad the audio was way lagging the video.
    So what happened to make it work?
    OPPS!

    Wife had switched the TV to TV, its own tuner from off of HDMI. So it is not fixed.
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  8.    1 Week Ago #48
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    are you using/installing fall creator 1709 ver? I did have problem with installing the NVidia driver for my fx1800. had to use windows update to install the driver for it. but I am still having problem getting it to sleep and wake properly
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  9.    1 Week Ago #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildpig1234 View Post
    are you using/installing fall creator 1709 ver? I did have problem with installing the NVidia driver for my fx1800. had to use windows update to install the driver for it. but I am still having problem getting it to sleep and wake properly
    it is version 1709 that is on the PC.

    My plan is to try another card. I can even pull the card and use the MB onboard card for testing. If I can not make it work, my plan is to downgrade to win7.
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  10.    1 Week Ago #50
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    I fixed the problem early this am.
    I took the GT610 out of my desktop pc and put it in the jerky broken PC.
    windows 10 detected the card and downloaded a new different nvidia driver from fall 2017 versus the borked 2015 driver for the gtx260 video card that it prefers for that gtx260.

    The video is perfectly smooth. So the driver that windows uses is defective if you have a gtx260 video card. And you can not install a new driver, at least I cant.
    Was a lot of work, the gtx260 is a big card and I had to mod my ubuntu desktop pc's case to fit it in there.


    I put the gtx260 in my ubuntu desktop and the video is smooth and perfect, accelerated video is fine, TV is fine, so the card is fine.

    I prefer to stay on win10, because it is modern OS and I can easily fix it if I loose the OS with a failure, versus win7.
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