Windows 10: After Creators Update 2 thumbnails cache keeps auto-deleting Solved

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  1. Posts : 15
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
       12 May 2018 #111

    With the latest Windows 1803 update, Microsoft once again smashed my computer's settings.

    Not only did Microsoft erase tens of thousands of thumbnails, they also deleted a myriad of settings and configurations that will take me weeks to recover. It's simply obscene - and it happens twice a year.

    Well, as it seems to be a persistent issue that Microsoft obviously did not intend to change, I've found a preliminary solution.

    Regarding the very large number of thumbnails I'm missing on every Windows new build update, I've found a way to restore them, so I'll save at least one week's manual work.

    Macrium Reflect makes everyday systembuilds from which I can extract single folders easily and additionally, and I also do manually back ups of important files and folders.

    Therefore, I always have a copy of all the thumbnail databases, which I just need to have placed back again.
    Since some of these files are constantly in use and therefore can't be deleted or overwritten, I have to do it in a DOS Command Prompt.
    I restart my computer with SHIFT + Restart, and then select Troubleshooting> Advanced Settings> Command Prompt.

    After restart, I then chose the Windows drive - usually C:\
    Then switch to the folder where all the thumbnails databases are located:
    C:\> CD Users\My Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer
    Then I delete everything in the folder:
    Del *.* (Accept ALL)

    Then switch to the drive and folder where the backups are located - in my case G:\ThumbnailsBackup:
    G:\>
    CD ThumbnailsBackup
    G:\> ThumbnailsBackup
    Copy *.* C:\Users\My Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer (and Confirm)
    Restart the computer - and all thumbnails are back again.

    Hope this work arround can help others in the same situation as me.

    Sorry for my bad english.

    Cheers
    René
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  2.    05 Jun 2018 #112

    The registry tweak doesn't seem to be working anymore? Applied it and all my media is slow to refresh i.e. as if the thumbnail cache is being rebuilt each time for any folder.
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  3.    05 Jun 2018 #113

    I gave up and just use Icaros: New Release: 3.0.3 FINAL now. It works.
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  4. Posts : 49
    Windows 10 Pro
       05 Jun 2018 #114

    I have mastered this.

    Go to my Article and read the May 2018 Update. I am revising it soon to make it easier to understand.

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...7-965379fb91f0

    Here is what I have done and stopped it long ago. This does not affect you system in a negative way whatsoever. My Thumbnail Caches are from 2GB to 3GB on all PC's I own.

    UPDATED: MAY, 2018


    I have thousands of thumbnails. Microsoftdeletes your thumbnail cache when it reaches about 700MB or lower in size. AllMy Home PC's are at about 2.1GB+ & My Business PC is at 2.9GB.

    First, I have disabled and deleted many Task scheduler servicesthat I will show you later.

    First, you have to disable and even remove some tasks.Microsoft had made the deleting your thumbnail cache almost redundant. Meaningone service with different users such as system, trusted installer, admins, etccan trigger another service and somehow still delete them. This is a well knownfact.

    First you have to go to these 2 registry settings and changethe values to 0 which is off for disk clean up auto run for thumbnail caches. Iactually delete the registry auto run flags.

    Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VolumeCaches\Thumbnai lCache

    AutoRun>>Modify
    change value from 1 to 0
    ______

    Computer\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\VolumeCac hes\ThumbnailCache

    AutoRun>>Modify
    change value from 1 to 0.

    But Wait, this is not fool proof, the cache will get deleted.So I deleted the auto run entries in the registry above.

    So in Task Scheduler
    All these have been disabled or deleted (After exporting backups). Doingthis has no negative effect on your system except for running maintenance,which can be done manually as these Tasks is what has many triggers for otherservices even when disabled or deleted. Gets tricky. I have spent lots of timeto finally get it to stop deleting them. There is no other article on the webthat has a solution that works. But this has for me so far.

    ApplicationData- Disabled
    Diagnosis= DELETED
    Disk CleanUp = DELETED
    FileHistory = DELETED
    Maintenance= DELETED
    RemovalTools = DELETED
    WasSMedic= DELETED
    WDI =DELETED
    Wininet =DELETED
    WorkFolders = DELETED
    &Windows Defender 2 tasks
    A. WindowsDefender Cache Maintenance = DELETED
    B. WindowsDefender Cleanup = DELETED

    Then I went to C:\Windows\System32 and C:\Windows\SysWOW64
    And took "OWNERSHIP" of "cleanmgr.exe.mui"and "cleanmgr.exe"
    in both locations, which is the "Disk Cleanup Utility".

    Removed all the Users, and then added myself (My USERACCOUNT) in the list with full permissions/control.

    Then I renamed them
    cleanmgr.bak.mui
    cleanmgr.bak
    **This Disables Disk Cleanup**

    **To Enable, Rename Files In both locations**
    cleanmgr.exe.mui
    cleanmgr.exe

    Now when I want a disk clean up done, "I WILL RUNTHEM".

    I also took ownership of these files and removed allusersexcept myself.
    C:\Windows\System32and C:\Windows\SysWOW64
    WinSATAPI.dll
    WinSATAPI.dll.mui

    I also took ownership of these files and removed all usersexcept myself. (For other Purposes not really related to this, but I suspect itcan cause triggers to other tasks and services). It is all Redundant.
    C:\Windows\System32and C:\Windows\SysWOW64
    wininet.dll
    wininet.dll.mui
    wininetlui.dll.mui
    wininetlui.dll

    It took all this to stop it from happening. They have madeit redundant and pretty much impossible to stop it happening no matter what hasbeen disabled, deleted and what not. It took all this to stop it.

    **And I think this is the main key as if onlyyou are the owner of your “Explorer” folder and with only you in the list of userswith full permissions, then no system users can delete the caches. So for extra securityI went to:
    C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer
    Where your thumbnail and icon caches are located per user,
    took ownership of Explorer with full permissions
    and deleted all other users in the list except myself, whichI added.

    **Also I copy and save abackup of the “Caches” Folder located here: C:\Users\USER NAME\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Caches

    Anytime you take ownership of an object, you must also thenadd your name in the list of users with FULL PERMISSIONS.

    I have not since had them deleted.

    If you never have more than about 500MB to 700MB, then theymay not get deleted. But upon cumulative updates and other updates they can bedeleted no matter how small cache size is if this is not done above.

    And a Creators Pack will delete the cache no matter what.

    But I save a back up of Explorer folder and copy andpaste cache back in to Explorer after creators packs to restore the cache. Butto do this, Sometimes you have to do a couple steps and use command prompt orsafe mode to restore thumbnail cache,

    ** or create a 2nduser account giving thataccount full permissions to your Explorer folder so you can log onto 2nd accountand replace your Explorer cache folder and the Caches folder while loggedonto the other account, as you cannot replace your explorer cache while loggedin and it is in use.

    I also always have a SYSTEM IMAGE. The #1 MUST, when owninga Computer.

    It was an obsession and I had to stop Windows fromdeleting the thumbnail cache. It finally paid off.
    Last edited by Seahawks65; 05 Jun 2018 at 20:14.
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  5. Posts : 49
    Windows 10 Pro
       14 Jun 2018 #115

    KCR said: View Post
    I would seem so. . . my issue is back. .

    Attachment 174236

    Part of my desktop gets removed too. . .

    Attachment 174237

    Both of the Reg edits are still OK, though.

    Attachment 174238

    And everything in Disk Cleanup is unchecked, delete thumbnails in CCleaner is also unchecked. . . strange !
    Thumbnails are NOT Icons

    You should never use programs like CCleaner. They only ruin your operating system and serve no real purpose. They are really just a gimmick and useless.
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  6.    14 Jun 2018 #116

    I have never understood why users with lots of images do not use a dedicated photo viewer that stores it's own thumbnail cache/ database.


    Then there is Wildbit Image Viewer:

    WildBit Software


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    There must be other decent softwares that could be used.
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  7. Posts : 49
    Windows 10 Pro
       14 Jun 2018 #117

    Callender said: View Post
    I have never understood why users with lots of images do not use a dedicated photo viewer that stores it's own thumbnail cache/ database.

    Then there is Wildbit Image Viewer:

    WildBit Software

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    There must be other decent softwares that could be used.
    Give it a try.
    And if the explorer cache gets deleted, it will have to reload them no matter what program has its own thumbnail cache.

    I have Icaros thumbnail cache that comes with Shark007 Codec pack and has its own cache store. But when windows cache is deleted that does not save them. And I believe this program will not either when windows delete the cache in explorer and caches folders

    And it states not for external storage. Well then what use is it good for if you have several drives with thumbnails. I would say it is totally useless.
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  8.    14 Jun 2018 #118

    Well I tested a portable flash drive and the thumbnail cache is saved no problem.

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    EDIT: Agreed that it doesn't help with image thumbnails in Explorer but I keep them turned off and have no use for them. They are totally unreliable and slow if working with multiple images.
    Last edited by Callender; 14 Jun 2018 at 18:47. Reason: obscure personal info
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  9. Posts : 49
    Windows 10 Pro
       14 Jun 2018 #119

    Callender said: View Post
    Well I tested a portable flash drive and the thumbnail cache is saved no problem.

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    EDIT: Agreed that it doesn't help with image thumbnails in Explorer but I keep them turned off and have no use for them. They are totally unreliable and slow if working with multiple images.
    Unreliable ?????????? really ????????
    I have thousands of video thumbnails that are not the generic ugly windows thumbnails. They show a frame off of the videos for the thumbnails like a photo thumbnail shows. Same for Audio files with album art. On the folders holding them and on each file.

    Slow and unreliable ????? once they load in explorer, they are always there and slow nothing down.

    This is why you prevent windows deleting thumbnail cache.

    and you state you tried it and it saved them. ????? Well what is your total thumbnail cache size show in disk cleanup ???? once it gets to about 500MB, if that, they will get deleted. and give it a few days until an update or a scheduled windows task runs and they will also get deleted.

    selecting to always show icons and never thumbnails, then you have no thumbnails. they are generic icons.

    and you will never get real thumbnails with windows for audio or video files. Only an AVI or MP4 generic ugly thumbnail which is the same as the icons is pretty much Just photos will show a real thumbnail view of the photo.

    These thumbnails are generated and display this way because if Icaros installed with Shark007 codec pack

    Last edited by Seahawks65; 19 Jun 2018 at 15:25.
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  10.    14 Jun 2018 #120

    I meant unreliable if windows is left to do it's own thing. I know that you use Sharks codec pack. In the past I've used MediaPreview and currently have LAV Filters installed along with other codecs.
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