Has anyone decided to go back to 7 or 8.1?

lehnerus2000 said:

I'm sure they put a lot of effort into making sure the statement was deliberately confusing/misleading.

This is total nonsense! Do you really think Windows would even exist if MS would deliberately confuse users?

lehnerus2000 said:

If you want to be sure of avoiding the online account, make sure your PC cannot connect to a network during the clean install procedure.

I'm curious why one would want to use the OS without using the Microsoft account? Seems to me like crippling the system.

sygnus21 said:

I'm curious why one would want to use the OS without using the Microsoft account? Seems to me like crippling the system.

I always install / setup Windows with a local account to get the user profile named as I wish instead of five character acronym as profile name I would get if setting up with a Microsoft account.

When on desktop after setting up Windows, first thing I do then is to switch to Microsoft account.

If additional user accounts will be set up, I'll do the same: set up as local, sign in, switch to Microsoft account.

This way Microsoft account user jane.doe@SomeEmailService.com gets user profile Jane instead of janed, the name her profile and profile folder had got if account was setup as Microsoft account, user joe.breil@SomeEmailService.com will get profile Joe instead of joebr, or user sebastian.smith@SomeEmailService.com will get profile Sebastian instead of sebas.

shipinomore10 said:

I went back to 8.1 pro. I have no interest in the creators addition. Updates seem to create problems. today I cannot delete or move backup files in Macrium backups. error code 0x80070510 I opened a problem report in Macrium but I am sure that it is probably caused by MS.
today I could not get Chrome to open system real slow so I went back to yesterdays image file.
Shipinomore

@shipinomore10

Just FYI, that error message is telling you that you have Macrium Image Guardian turned on for those files. It's a lot of words just to say "you're not allowed to delete them that way. They are protected". Your options are to delete them thru the Macrium UI, or turn Guardian off, completely or just that folder where stored.

Error 0x80070510 when deleting backup files - KnowledgeBase v7 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase - KnowledgeBase v7 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

Kari said:

I always install / setup Windows with a local account to get the user profile named as I wish instead of five character acronym as profile name I would get if setting up with a Microsoft account.

When on desktop after setting up Windows, first thing I do then is to switch to Microsoft account.

If additional user accounts will be set up, I'll do the same: set up as local, sign in, switch to Microsoft account.

This way Microsoft account user jane.doe@SomeEmailService.com gets user profile Jane instead of janed, the name her profile and profile folder had got if account was setup as Microsoft account, user joe.breil@SomeEmailService.com will get profile Joe instead of joebr, or user sebastian.smith@SomeEmailService.com will get profile Sebastian instead of sebas.

My greater point is why one wouldn't want to use the OS with a MS Account

Pirx said:

Heheh, that's very funny. Wait: You may in fact be serious.
Seriously? Like when they dupe users into using Microsoft accounts without their consent or even knowledge? You've got to be kidding. I will agree with you that in some cases these things are just the result of incompetence, but there is absolutely no way some others are not deliberate.

Well I've never used my MSA since the Technical Preview days and never felt duped since...

I finally got around to doing a clean install of FCU (after numerous driver and app compatibility issues on an upgrade install) and I must say it's getting pretty close to the Win 7 yardstick in performance and reliability. (btw...Win 8 was a nightmare [less so 8.1 to be fair] , so no comparison there)

sygnus21 said:

My greater point is why one wouldn't want to use the OS with a MS Account

Yes, I understood that. I just explained why it might be a good idea to always use a local account when setting up Windows, even if you want to use Microsoft account when setup is done.

In my opinion installing without network connection only to assure user gets initial account as a local account is somewhat overreacting, but my point was that even a Microsoft account user might want to do it to be sure, then when on desktop connect to network and switch to Microsoft account.