Has anyone decided to go back to 7 or 8.1?

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  1. slicendice's Avatar
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       24 Oct 2017 #61

    Redbatman said: View Post
    I think some companies still use Windows 98 or worse MSDOS.
    MS-DOS is great! It has it's place and even I use it from time to time for non internet connected tasks. It is NO Windows, so we can't compare those two.
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       24 Oct 2017 #62

    Pirx said: View Post
    As an aside, I am stunned at those stories of people doing clean installs as a matter of course. With the kind of software environment I need, setting up a machine from scratch, installing and configuring all the pieces of software I need and use on a daily basis requires a very significant investment of time. There is absolutely no way for me to justify that kind of effort, none at all.
    It takes me about 15 minutes to recover my OS if it is behaving badly for some reason. All software and account profile settings installed and configured as I like them.

    Pirx said: View Post
    Sure, if all you do is play games and browse the web, and perhaps fire up good-old MS Word from time to time you don't care. Like I said, some of us have slightly more complex work environments than that.
    So you mean me doing software engineering, algorithmic trading, statistical analysis and machine learning related development, does not count as real or complex enough job/work? And are you saying because of Windows 10 I can do none of that? Now you really make me laugh! HAHAHAH!

    ...maybe you are right, I don't do any real work...it's my computer that does the real work for me, which is the point of me having a computer in the first place and Windows 10 among other OSes are doing their jobs just fine.
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  3.    25 Oct 2017 #63

    slicendice said: View Post
    It takes me about 15 minutes to recover my OS if it is behaving badly for some reason. All software and account profile settings installed and configured as I like them.



    So you mean me doing software engineering, algorithmic trading, statistical analysis and machine learning related development, does not count as real or complex enough job/work? And are you saying because of Windows 10 I can do none of that? Now you really make me laugh! HAHAHAH!

    ...maybe you are right, I don't do any real work...it's my computer that does the real work for me, which is the point of me having a computer in the first place and Windows 10 among other OSes are doing their jobs just fine.
    Ah you poor amateur !!!!
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       25 Oct 2017 #64

    CountMike said: View Post
    Ah you poor amateur !!!!
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       25 Oct 2017 #65

    Redbatman said: View Post
    Since fall creators update has come and I have noticed people having issues. Therefore I ask are people deciding to go back to 7 and 8.1 out of frustration?
    Hi Redbatman,

    Windows 10 is becoming a cloud OS and i understand why microsoft is doing this,
    i like to control my system and with win 10 i have no control, the desktop interface is nice looking but i see with every upgrade it's going to look more like a phone interface (i.e all the settings) very ugly.
    Whith several upgrades, subtle and purpousely tricky settings microsoft has made very clear that you shoud join the cloud, and without doing so your win 10 experience will be a living hell, so yes, i reverted to win 8.1 which is the BEST microsoft OS much faster than windows 7 and much more reliable than win 10.
    I have an almost brand new pc with win 10 sitting there unused till i find the time to install linux in it.

    All the best!
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  6.    25 Oct 2017 #66

    I'm still on version 1607. There's no way I'm updating.
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       25 Oct 2017 #67

    roy111 said: View Post
    Hi Redbatman,

    Windows 10 is becoming a cloud OS and i understand why microsoft is doing this,
    i like to control my system and with win 10 i have no control, the desktop interface is nice looking but i see with every upgrade it's going to look more like a phone interface (i.e all the settings) very ugly.
    Whith several upgrades, subtle and purpousely tricky settings microsoft has made very clear that you shoud join the cloud, and without doing so your win 10 experience will be a living hell, so yes, i reverted to win 8.1 which is the BEST microsoft OS much faster than windows 7 and much more reliable than win 10.
    I have an almost brand new pc with win 10 sitting there unused till i find the time to install linux in it.

    All the best!
    You don't have to connect Windows 10 to any cloud nor online account and it will work just fine. If one needs the level of control I think you are referring to, then upgrade to Pro and use group policy editor. The average Home user does not need all that fancy stuff Group Policy Editor brings and most users don't even understand all the configurations there. Settings is more than enough to configure the system.

    More and more PCs are becoming touch enabled and Settings work much better for both worlds compared to Control Panel.
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       25 Oct 2017 #68

    slicendice said: View Post
    You don't have to connect Windows 10 to any cloud nor online account and it will work just fine. If one needs the level of control I think you are referring to, then upgrade to Pro and use group policy editor. The average Home user does not need all that fancy stuff Group Policy Editor brings and most users don't even understand all the configurations there. Settings is more than enough to configure the system.

    More and more PCs are becoming touch enabled and Settings work much better for both worlds compared to Control Panel.
    The problem is not only with all the settings i have to manage, quite cumbersome BTW, it is a matter of trust:

    last time i tried to install win 10 with an offline account, during the install procedure i selected "offline account" so the install procedure warned me:

    "you are about to use an offline account but windows 10 works better with an online account, would you like to proceed anyway?"

    so i selected "Yes" meaning that anyway i would like to use an offline account,
    nevertheless i was then asked to insert my email address to configure an online account, so i was literally tricked to use an online account.

    I choose to not trust an OS that tries to trick me like this.

    No man is more blind than the man who refuses to see.
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       25 Oct 2017 #69

    roy111 said: View Post
    The problem is not only with all the settings i have to manage, quite cumbersome BTW, it is a matter of trust:

    last time i tried to install win 10 with an offline account, during the install procedure i selected "offline account" so the install procedure warned me:

    "you are about to use an offline account but windows 10 works better with an online account, would you like to proceed anyway?"

    so i selected "Yes" meaning that anyway i would like to use an offline account,
    nevertheless i was then asked to insert my email address to configure an online account, so i was literally tricked to use an online account.

    I choose to not trust an OS that tries to trick me like this.

    No man is more blind than the man who refuses to see.
    I think you must have interpreted the dialogue wrong or something...

    Because I do not want to login to my computer(s) with my Microsoft account, I ALWAYS install Windows 10 (ever since initial release of Windows 8.0 and onward, including ALL Beta releases) with an OFFLINE account, and never have I been tricked into providing any e-mail addresses anywhere. :)
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       25 Oct 2017 #70

    slicendice said: View Post
    I think you must have interpreted the dialogue wrong or something...
    Well if you think i can not grasp the meaning of a phrase in my own language, there is no point to answer me in english
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