Windows 10: Has anyone decided to go back to 7 or 8.1?

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       24 Oct 2017 #51

    Pirx said: View Post
    Yep, it does, doesn't it. Unfortunately, some of us use computers as tools to assist them with the work they do for a living, and have no interest nor time toying around with them.
    Ok so as an IT Pro you have no time to “toy around with them”. What’s your beef other than Windows is changing at a faster pace making it difficult to keep up learning new tech to do your job? From what I read looks to me like MS made your job easier with the IT tech tools they’ve introduced.

    Now retired, I used Windows for years to run a building contracting business. I wish I had these W10 tech features back then and now with/across multiple devices. Devices that are much easier to set up. Managing, navigating, and performing tasks is a cinch on these systems today.

    As an aside, I am stunned at those stories of people doing clean installs as a matter of course. With the kind of software environment I need, setting up a machine from scratch, installing and configuring all the pieces of software I need and use on a daily basis requires a very significant investment of time. There is absolutely no way for me to justify that kind of effort, none at all.
    Absolutely nothing wrong with the stability of my W10 systems here. Kari and others just covered why users have problems with systems. 3rd party maintenance crap apps and configuring their systems into oblivion. That's their prerogative, of course. Certainly you’re going to read more about problems here with tech enthusiasts/hobbyists. Sometimes I think they like to mess up their systems just to spend time fixing them. When they’re really advanced they use a mirror to quickly recover.

    Sure, if all you do is play games and browse the web, and perhaps fire up good-old MS Word from time to time you don't care. Like I said, some of us have slightly more complex work environments than that.
    You make it sound like you have the most complex job on the planet. I’ll respect your position to use a system to perform your job, but I don’t think you have any idea what it’s like performing/managing business on one. I feel you ought to have more respect with the comments you make. Besides that, there are members here that were developing, testing, and using tech while you were still in diapers.

    To end > I have a Vista era Acer T690 sitting next to me that started out using 65-70% of 2GBs of mem a week ago after installing W10 that is now only using 35-40% mem because of MS's compatibility process working things out. Amazing tech.
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  2.    24 Oct 2017 #52

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    If Windows is so disdainful, and Macs better suited for your "more complex work environments", why are you here... other than to be antagonistic?
    I never used words as colorful but meaninglessly vague as "disdainful".
    And I have no idea if Macs are better suited, but I'll give them a try now that Windows has gone downhill so much.

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    Ok so as an IT Pro you have no time to “toy around with them”.
    I'm not an IT Pro, and haven't done any IT work per se in decades.

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    You make it sound like you have the most complex job on the planet.


    As a matter of fact I do, along with countless other executives just like me.

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    ... I don’t think you have any idea what it’s like performing/managing business on one.
    ... Besides that, there are members here that were developing, testing, and using tech while you were still in diapers.
    I will just note that you have no basis for any of the assumptions you are making above and leave it at that.
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  3.    24 Oct 2017 #53

    sygnus21 said: View Post
    Part of the problem is you have too many so-called experts that swear by these tweaks of yesteryear. Couple that with many users who have no idea how said tweak may affect their systems; they just do it because Johnny on the internet said so. Never mind Johnny is still running XP while others are on newer OS's.
    I don't consider myself as an expert but I tinker with system to some extent but can also get myself out of trouble because I note what I was doing and than it's easier to fix or reverse. If nothing helps, heck, there's always MR and full backup. This is only third time I did a clean install since first ever evaluation build. Some testing I do in VM but as most of my tinkering is about HW direct approach is required so VM is out. One things I'm not using are those snake oil "optimizer cleaners, fix-em-uppers and speedup " programs. Driver finders/updaters are also out of question. In other words, if something goes south, I want it to be my fault so I learn and not spend days to find out what/who else did what.
    Internet is also fast and there's incredible amount of data to be found, just gotta look around and there's answer to most questions.
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       24 Oct 2017 #54

    Pirx said: View Post
    I'm not an IT Pro, and haven't done any IT work per se in decades.
    So, then we’ll keep in mind that you have had at least a high interest in IT tech or it’s a part of your management duties to know a little about it. At least you can distinguish a PC from a Mac. Or by means of that comment just made to sygnus21, can you?

    As a matter of fact I do, along with countless other executives just like me.
    I see. You really like to flaunt that position, eh. Well, I’m here to tell you that you sit on a toilet daily performing some paperwork and will end up in an ornamental box or an urn sooner or later just as the rest of us.

    I will just note that you have no basis for any of the assumptions you are making above and leave it at that.
    As a matter of fact, much basis by the statements you’ve been making leading us to believe that you do. Not too many commoners would know….

    Things get worse when you look at what's going on under the hood: Random component crashes all over the place, unfixable DCOM errors, ill-formed manifest files that have not been fixed for years, the list goes on and on.
    ...or other statements you've made. So, therefore, I’ll also assume you manage IT department or at the very least oversee one as an executive.

    Finally, you must be too young to retire, so my statement about age stands as is.

    Good day to you, sir.
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  5.    24 Oct 2017 #55

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    So, then we’ll keep in mind that you have had at least a high interest in IT tech or it’s a part of your management duties to know a little about it. At least you can distinguish a PC from a Mac. Or by means of that comment just made to sygnus21, can you?



    I see. You really like to flaunt that position, eh. Well, I’m here to tell you that you sit on a toilet daily performing some paperwork and will end up in an ornamental box or an urn sooner or later just as the rest of us.



    As a matter of fact, much basis by the statements you’ve been making leading us to believe that you do. Not too many commoners would know….



    ...or other statements you've made. So, therefore, I’ll also assume you manage IT department or at the very least oversee one as an executive.

    Finally, you must be too young to retire, so my statement about age stands as is.

    Good day to you, sir.
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       24 Oct 2017 #56

    wow
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  7.    24 Oct 2017 #57

    Look, I really had no intention of disturbing your mental peace. If you're happy with Windows 10 that's certainly all that matters to you, and I have absolutely no problem with that. I'll skip the unproductive bickering if you don't mind.

    HippsieGypsie said: View Post
    Good day to you, sir.
    And a good day to you, too, M'lord.
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  8.    24 Oct 2017 #58

    Hi,

    In a business oriented environment I can understand companies and OEMs alike stick with an OS such as W7. I probably would as well.
    But, those that run it "side by side" will tell you that W10 is the faster OS.

    Time being money......


    Cheers,
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  9.    24 Oct 2017 #59

    fdegrove said: View Post
    Hi,

    In a business oriented environment I can understand companies and OEMs alike stick with an OS such as W7. I probably would as well.
    But, those that run it "side by side" will tell you that W10 is the faster OS.

    Time being money......


    Cheers,
    I think some companies still use Windows 98 or worse MSDOS.
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       24 Oct 2017 #60

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    wow
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