on a restart Fall Creators Update reopens apps from before

baxenko · 19 Oct 2017

I install starltsbak++ 2.5.2 and fix it

cereberus · 19 Oct 2017

cereberus said:

The desktop shortcut works well.

I modified it with the /hybrid switch, as this enabled fastboot to work as well.

shutdown.exe /s /hybrid /t 0

You can also create a restart shortcut which works as well

shutdown.exe /r /t 0

Note: if apps have files open, you will get a popup message warning you. You can do regedits to bypass this but not advisable.

LEOPEVA64 · 19 Oct 2017

Bree said:

After a Restart, all the apps that I had open and running before shutting down are reopened (and all tabs in a browser, if that's one of the apps that was open before). In Creators Update this didn't happen, apps were closed on shutting down and stayed that way on a restart.

Is this a new feature, or a bug? If it's a feature, does @Brink have a tutorial to turn it off? It's annoying :)

sagor said:

How can i shut down my pc completely?
I don't want this feature, coz this feature causing me a problem.When ever i turn on my pc my usb port doesn't work.So i have to turn off my pc by unplug the power cord.

I have written several comments about that in different threads:

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Some think that this "feature" can be disabled with a toggle that is in Settings-Accounts-Sign-in options, but they are completely wrong, because they are two separate "features", as J. Gentleman (Software Engineer at Microsoft) told me through Twitter:

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A week ago I wrote a comment about the "solution" I used to solve that problem:

https://www.tenforums.com/windows-10-news/94708-cumulative-update-kb4043961-build-16299-19-pc-37.html#post1162548

Try0x101 · 19 Oct 2017

So, in my language about unexpected features in software in community of programmers exist meme, "Не баг, а фича".
What means "Not bug, that feature", and if this "Reopening apps" feature not exist on every PC and cannot be tweakable, we make assumption what that looks more like new bug.

Bree · 19 Oct 2017

tomseys said:

Anyone see any application besides Chrome, IE 11, Wordpad/Word and Task Manager do this?

Yes. Office 2007 (Word, Excel and Powerpoint) and the Snipping Tool.

Bree · 19 Oct 2017

cereberus said:

You can also create a restart shortcut which works as well
shutdown.exe /r /t 0

Yes, I use that one. For shut down I've used shutdown /p
I have both shortcuts in a folder called Power and for convenience I have added it as a toolbar on the taskbar.

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For completeness, I have tested the behaviour of shutdown /g which by design is supposed to restart and reopen all registered apps. The results are the same - only certain apps get reopened - the same ones as reported earlier. It seems increasingly likely that the 'bug' is that the Start power button now uses the /g form of restart and /sg for shut down.

Bree · 19 Oct 2017

Bree said:

For completeness, I have tested the behaviour of shutdown /g which by design is supposed to restart and reopen all registered apps. The results are the same - only certain apps get reopened....

Further investigation shows this this is by design - that of the apps themselves, not Windows. The key word above is 'registered'. An app's code has to be written to register as capable of being restarted - it is a deliberate choice made by the programmer.

Microsoft said:

When you register for recovery or restart, the registration information is added to the process. Windows Error Reporting (WER) uses the registration information to call your recovery callback and restart your application.

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/lib...(v=vs.85).aspx

cereberus said:

There is not a problem as such as it is a new feature, but it clearly is not consistent.

The above is the explanation for the apparent inconsistency. It's a feature of each individual app, not of Windows as such. What's new is that in FCU Windows is using that well documented feature on restart/shut down.

eternalrz · 19 Oct 2017

cereberus said:

There is not a problem as such as it is a new feature, but it clearly is not consistent.

I found chrome/word (never tested excel etc) reopen but not EDGE (maybe because that is a uwp app?). VLC did not restart plus a couple of other apps I tried.

I don't think this is a feature. It's not happening to enough people apparently and there's no documentation anywhere stating that this is a new function in version 1709.

I'd like to think that no one would be dumb enough to include this feature into Windows either. Imagine working on a document containing confidential data and have to make a presentation, then plug your computer into a projector...

LEOPEVA64 · 19 Oct 2017

eternalrz said:

I don't think this is a feature. It's not happening to enough people apparently and there's no documentation anywhere stating that this is a new function in version 1709. .

https://goo.gl/iJDbb4

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Jason Howard is Chief Officer on the Windows Insider Engineering team.

Barman58 · 19 Oct 2017

I got into the habit of always saving my work and shutting down all foreground programs before I consider shutting down or re-booting. This happened a long time ago ( in those dark days pre windows ) but is still a valid procedure today, Yes the system is now designed to do all this automagically and to recover the open apps at next reboot, but I'd just rather be sure, I also save before any print of a document just in case the print spooler &*^*&(^s up