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  1.    16 Oct 2017 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    Unfortunately, replacing the power supply did not help, which means I have another problem.
    This system does have onboard video, but even bypassing the external video card and resetting CMOS, I am still not booting. Unless I am wrong, this means I either have a dead board or maybe a dead CPU??
    Yea,..I'd go along with that now. You've bypassed your GPU, confirmed its not the HDDs and replaced the PSU. As you say, either CPU or MOBO. Both expensive items too so which one to replace first and hope that was the right choice?
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  2.    16 Oct 2017 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    I cannot get to bios, as the machine does not post. No beeps, no output to screen. It just turns on and does this:

    Clicking noise on startup. - YouTube

    Unfortunately, replacing the power supply did not help, which means I have another problem.

    This system does have onboard video, but even bypassing the external video card and resetting CMOS, I am still not booting. Unless I am wrong, this means I either have a dead board or maybe a dead CPU??
    Quote me if i am wrong but if the graphics card is bad you will not see the post screen at boot or thereafter.
    Some BIOS will not appear either.
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  3.    16 Oct 2017 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Quote me if i am wrong but if the graphics card is bad you will not see the post screen at boot or thereafter.
    Some BIOS will not appear either.
    Right, but I don't hear it post like I used to. It's so weird really, and unfortunate, as this thing is barely 2 years old and was not a cheap board. Now I am torn as to which part to replace (Leaning toward MOBO), or if I should scoop some extra cash together to upgrade the entire thing. Decisions...
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  4.    16 Oct 2017 #24
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    The other piece that I just thought of... Dangit.. My copy of windows 10 is tied to this machine. If I replace the motherboard, what does that mean for my copy of windows??
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  5.    17 Oct 2017 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
    The other piece that I just thought of... Dangit.. My copy of windows 10 is tied to this machine. If I replace the motherboard, what does that mean for my copy of windows??
    You'll have to move it to the new motherboard:
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/20530
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  6.    17 Oct 2017 #26
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    UK
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    Windows 10 Home x64 (Laptop), Windows 10 Pro x64 (Desktop)

    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    Quote me if i am wrong but if the graphics card is bad you will not see the post screen at boot or thereafter.
    Some BIOS will not appear either.
    I've just replaced a bust AMD GPU which would boot to the BIOS screen but not Windows. I only suspected the GPU since I noticed some coloured vertical GPU artefacts on the BIOS screen.
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  7.    17 Oct 2017 #27
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    Do your old and new PSUs pass the 'paperclip test"? See http://support.antec.com/support/sol...paperclip-test

    Your new PSU could be a dud but that's unlikely.

    Remove the CMOS battery for a few minutes and try removing and reseating the RAM and GPU cards. Check all power cables to the motherboard are firmly connected.
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  8.    17 Oct 2017 #28
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    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post

    Right, but I don't hear it post like I used to. It's so weird really, and unfortunate, as this thing is barely 2 years old and was not a cheap board. Now I am torn as to which part to replace (Leaning toward MOBO), or if I should scoop some extra cash together to upgrade the entire thing. Decisions...
    Even brand new motherboards can be dead-on-arrival as happened to me 18 months ago during a PC build.

    Truth is,..when diagnosing a faulty PC, you really need to have lots of spare parts, virtually another PC if one is to have any hope of trying to sort out a problem should it be a physical one which in this case, it sounds like it is. Not a practical solution for many I know but even purchasing cheaper spare parts over a period of time would come in handy for that fateful day.
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  9.    17 Oct 2017 #29
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    Yeah. This is my only Intel machine so no way for me to simply replace parts at this point one at a time. It's a socket 1150, so trying to replace the motherboard means making an investment in old tech. I cannot find one just like this one unfortunately, which is a shame as it was actually a pretty good one. So I am torn about what to do. I opened a case with the motherboard manufacturer last night, or at least I think I did. I believe this motherboard is still under warranty.
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  10.    17 Oct 2017 #30
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    Wow.. I finally got a hold of the motherboard manufacturer this morning after waiting on hold for about 40 min. Anyways, my machine is working again!! I am posting from it now. I am posting what fixed it for those who might be following, as well as for the benefit of the next poor soul who finds themselves in my situation.

    So, the tech had me pull one of the two memory sticks that were connected to the machine, and try to boot it. She did not care which one I removed. After I did that, strangely, the machine did post, however, when I reboot and tried to make it to the bios, it began with the exact same behavior. She had me power down and swap memory sticks, which I did, and this time I was able to make it into the bios.

    From here, she had me check the memory settings which were set to Auto, and were currently running at 1300mhz. According to the specs on the side of the memory, my memory was set designed to run at 1600mhz, so rather than set it to auto, she had me select profile1 from the option, which apparently switched my speed automatically to 1600mhz. She then had me power down and boot a few times back to bios to confirm it was working, which it was. We then added back in the other memory stick (now at this point, the only thing that has changed is the speed of the memory in bios, and the physical location of the 2 memory sticks have basically swapped from where they started) and the machine makes it back up to bios just fine. We repeat this process 6 times or so, each time coming back up to bios, and then I plug all my drives back in, as well as my video card.

    Now I try to boot the machine to windows. That first boot took a while longer, and it eventually rebooted itself, but then I hear the post beep and Walla, my machine comes up into windows!!

    So, I don't know how well I can trust this resolution. Seems odd to me that changing the memory speeds to make it perform faster (1600mhz instead of 1300mhz) and swapping the sticks physical location resolved this problem, especially when it ran fine for 2 years as it was before, but hey, what do I know?? If anyone cares to comment feel free. I would love to feel more confidence in this machine. Conversely, if you think I should not feel confident and should do some additional testing, I want to know that too... I have basically got a year left on this motherboard warranty, so resolving any problem now if there is one is advantageous!
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