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  1.    28 Sep 2017 #1
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    Windows 10 Mobile on PC?


    Hello! I currently have an old Pentium 4 PC with 2GB of ram lying around, and since there is no NX support, I cannot install Windows 10 on it. My question is, is there a iso or some kind of installer for Windows 10 Mobile, because then I could install it on the old dino, and have a Windows mobile experience, which is quite similar to Windows 10. And since its a mobile OS, it should run way better than Windows 7, because Windows Mobile was meant to run on weak hardware. Is any of this possible? Thanks! -Andrew
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  2.    28 Sep 2017 #2
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    Windows 10 mobile is for the phones not for a computer. What do you mean by no NX support. Linux will run fine on that machine as a 64bit install, also Windows 10 will run just fine.
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  3.    29 Sep 2017 #3
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Windows 64 bit may not run without NX support, but 32bit shouldnt care, at least I dont think.
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  4.    29 Sep 2017 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArazelEternal View Post
    Windows 64 bit may not run without NX support, but 32bit shouldnt care, at least I dont think.
    My memory is hazy on the subject, so I checked: Windows 10 X86 (32 bit) requires the NX (Intel calls it XD, for execute disable) bit. I haven't been able to find a straightforward MS link for that, but here's one for Windows 8:

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...or=-2147217396

    The requirements were carried forward into 10.

    Hacks have been published to get the installer to ignore the NX bit check, but I can't recommend anything like that.

    I can only suggest that the OP stay with Win 7 X86. Or Linux.

    I have no personal experience with Win 10 X86; all of the machines I have run X64. X64 has some additional, more obscure, requirements.
    Last edited by bobkn; 29 Sep 2017 at 15:33.
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  5.    30 Sep 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArazelEternal View Post
    Windows 64 bit may not run without NX support, but 32bit shouldnt care, at least I dont think.
    The OP has a 64-bit CPU. Both Linux and Windows will run just fine with 64-bit installs. The Atom CPU's from when Netbooks first came out were running just fine with Native 64-bit OS's.
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  6.    30 Sep 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    My memory is hazy on the subject, so I checked: Windows 10 X86 (32 bit) requires the NX (Intel calls it XD, for execute disable) bit. I haven't been able to find a straightforward MS link for that, but here's one for Windows 8:

    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...or=-2147217396
    The requirements were carried forward into 10.
    Hacks have been published to get the installer to ignore the NX bit check, but I can't recommend anything like that.

    I can only suggest that the OP stay with Win 7 X86. Or Linux.
    I have no personal experience with Win 10 X86; all of the machines I have run X64. X64 has some additional, more obscure, requirements.
    No hacks needed, since that class of CPU's run fine with 64-bit OS's. Does not matter about XD or NX. The Prescott Core is when XD started. Segmenting has been around since 80286 days, so where the OP of this topic may not understand that any CPU when you look at the spec's with Z-CPU or in Linux with a Live-DVD, will show what the CPU is capable of.

    I have a 775 Core 2 Quad Core and two Core 2 Duo's running 64 bit OS's just fine.
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  7.    30 Sep 2017 #7
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    Windows 10 Pro x86 and x64 dual boot

    I have a dual Pentium 4 running windows 10 32 bit no problem.
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  8.    30 Sep 2017 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by bro67 View Post
    No hacks needed, since that class of CPU's run fine with 64-bit OS's. Does not matter about XD or NX. The Prescott Core is when XD started. Segmenting has been around since 80286 days, so where the OP of this topic may not understand that any CPU when you look at the spec's with Z-CPU or in Linux with a Live-DVD, will show what the CPU is capable of.

    I have a 775 Core 2 Quad Core and two Core 2 Duo's running 64 bit OS's just fine.
    You're saying that Win10 will install on a system that doesn't support the NX bit?

    That's at odds with what I was able to find online.

    What CPUs do you refer to? At a guess, the "775 Core 2 quad" could be the Q6600. It has the XD bit.

    https://ark.intel.com/products/29765

    Ditto for the Core2 E4300.

    https://ark.intel.com/products/28024

    As regards "I have a dual Pentium 4 running windows 10 32 bit no problem.", if it's dual core, I believe it's not a P4, but rather a Core derivative.

    I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I think that MS makes the Win10 installer want to see the NX bit. (That, even though you may be able to turn off the DEP function that uses it.) If you'd provide the exact CPU models for the old machines, it'd be simple to check whether they support NX or not. I'd be pleased to be proven wrong, but you haven't provide the details to do it.
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  9.    30 Sep 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by banger View Post
    I have a dual Pentium 4 running windows 10 32 bit no problem.
    Never stated that there was a problem. Of course a 32-bit OS will run on any machine. You are running a dead OS version on a CPU that is made to run a 64-bit OS.

    More 64-bit based programs are now hitting the market, along with iOS and Android OS being exclusively 64-bit and those programs that are used the most are only 64-bit.
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  10.    30 Sep 2017 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    You're saying that Win10 will install on a system that doesn't support the NX bit?
    That's at odds with what I was able to find online.
    What CPUs do you refer to? At a guess, the "775 Core 2 quad" could be the Q6600. It has the XD bit.
    https://ark.intel.com/products/29765
    Ditto for the Core2 E4300.
    https://ark.intel.com/products/28024
    As regards "I have a dual Pentium 4 running windows 10 32 bit no problem.", if it's dual core, I believe it's not a P4, but rather a Core derivative.
    I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I think that MS makes the Win10 installer want to see the NX bit. (That, even though you may be able to turn off the DEP function that uses it.) If you'd provide the exact CPU models for the old machines, it'd be simple to check whether they support NX or not. I'd be pleased to be proven wrong, but you haven't provide the details to do it.
    Yes. NX has been around since the Prescott Intel CPU came off the lines in 2004.

    This is not a argument of wits, it is just simple that the OP is debating which to go and with 64-bit being now the leading in Mac OS, iOS, Android OS and even Linux. Microsoft is even selling more 64-bit versions of Windows.

    The fact of the matter is still that the OP should be going with a 64-bit version of Windows and ditch the 32-bit if they wish to stay pace of programs that are coming out that are made to run on a 64-bit OS.
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