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  1.    10 Sep 2017 #21
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Granite Bay, CA
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    Windows 10 Professional

    What bothers me, really, is the supposed "Quality Updates" that tend to ruin the operating system. I had my graphics card installed a while ago and everything was running well, but now I see this weird diagonal line refresh rate that separates the top-right half of the screen from the bottom-left half. I notice it in anything that requires video processing. And it's random, it comes for a few minutes then disappears. That never used to happen before, but I got used to it. Same thing with JPEGView, I now see a small grey line under each image I see in there. That never happened before.

    I would only respect the idea of Security Updates for this operating system ONLY. I don't want any other update.
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  2.    11 Sep 2017 #22
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,458
    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by pepanee View Post
    What bothers me, really, is the supposed "Quality Updates" that tend to ruin the operating system. I had my graphics card installed a while ago and everything was running well, but now I see this weird diagonal line refresh rate that separates the top-right half of the screen from the bottom-left half. I notice it in anything that requires video processing. And it's random, it comes for a few minutes then disappears. That never used to happen before, but I got used to it. Same thing with JPEGView, I now see a small grey line under each image I see in there. That never happened before.

    I would only respect the idea of Security Updates for this operating system ONLY. I don't want any other update.
    Just "kill" driver updates but don't forget to do it in your GPU driver too.
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  3.    11 Sep 2017 #23

    You can always overwrite the WU drivers by getting them from the manufacturer, they're often more up-to-date..
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  4.    11 Sep 2017 #24
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 11,069
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    It's relatively easy to set Windows to notify of every update, so you take control and decide when it happens. It is unfortunate MS has not made doing that absolutely straightforward.

    For each update, I am notified by the Action Centre. I click on that, Settings opens and tells me about the update. I then decide what I want to do.

    This is documented as part of a tenforums tutorial on disabling Windows updates (which this option does not do), and is implemented by any of:
    - Winaero's free tweaker
    - A Registry edit
    - Group policy (Pro upwards)

    Active hours (up to 18 consecutive hours in the Creator's Build) allows you not to be interrupted by an unexpected restart.
    Again it's unfortunate (I'm being polite!) that MS requires users to know about this and configure it manually.

    I have the Pro edition, so have chosen to Defer Feature Updates- meaning I can choose when this occurs.
    And again, it's unfortunate (I'm still being polite!) that MS requires users to know about this and configure it manually.

    Result: I have control of when updates and upgrades occur.

    Of course an additional irritation occurs for those who find problems using the version of some driver MS selects for them, and again, a technical fix, supported by a tenforums tutorial, is required.
    Last edited by dalchina; 11 Sep 2017 at 10:50.
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  5.    11 Sep 2017 #25
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Granite Bay, CA
    Posts : 718
    Windows 10 Professional

    Well, here's the problem.... according to the date of the graphics card, that is the same exact one that actually worked nicely and perfectly before! There's an updated version of this card which is even worse.

    Believe me on this one: I am sure it has nothing to do with the graphics card driver. I have given up attempting to fix it. I've tried fixing it before, and that caused nothing but extreme annoyances and distress. I am not going to put myself through that.

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  6.    11 Sep 2017 #26
    Join Date : Aug 2015
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    Windows 10 pro

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    It's relatively easy to set Windows to ... ...This is documented ...
    - Winaero's free tweaker
    - A Registry edit
    - Group policy (Pro upwards)...

    Active hours...and configure it manually.

    ...so have chosen to Defer Feature Updates- meaning... I have control of when updates and upgrades occur.

    Of course an additional irritation occurs... a tenforums tutorial, is required.
    Quote Originally Posted by tfe View Post
    ..... But... I am just a normal Windows user. Why I have to learn about metered connections etc? All options that should be enabled by default, are disabled in Windows. All options that should be disabled by default, are enabled in Windows. I feel that I can not have a full control over my computer and ...
    Fortunately...you must be adapted to M$ developments (I'm being polite!)

    So, next time you'll need to travel, have some Tenforums tutorials swallowed and be the happiest Windows user. And NO. It doesn't help in bad weather...

    My God...what users are they?
    Last edited by werby; 11 Sep 2017 at 18:12.
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  7.    12 Sep 2017 #27
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Posts : 188
    Windows 10

    Is this true for corporate / enterprise editions of Win 10?
    Quote Originally Posted by TairikuOkami View Post
    MS has decided to take a complete control from users even in Pro versions, because it knows the best.
    I am fighting with 10 to keep it under control, but with each upgrade it gets more and more difficult.
    In a corporate setting we usually get NO updates from MS. They come instead as "pushes" from the IT support team, and only after testing has been done to ensure compatibility.

    That was true of Windows 7 enterprise. Now I'm wondering whether that measure of control was lost with Windows 10 enterprise.
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  8.    12 Sep 2017 #28
    Join Date : May 2016
    Massachusetts
    Posts : 240
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by pepanee View Post
    Well, here's the problem.... according to the date of the graphics card, that is the same exact one that actually worked nicely and perfectly before! There's an updated version of this card which is even worse.
    --- I know what you mean. I haven't looked up the specs but is it a Legacy product? I had a an AMD link of them that indicated their latest versions are not updated to modern Win10 updates even though they have a pretty good driver date: I lost it but if I find it I'll post it if you would like to know what that report shows..
    Believe me on this one: I am sure it has nothing to do with the graphics card driver. I have given up attempting to fix it. I've tried fixing it before, and that caused nothing but extreme annoyances and distress. I am not going to put myself through that. Consider the following comments please.
    --- The installed graphics card you have is probably a DDR3, there are DDR5's available for better bandwidth. Investigate them. Make sure the PS requirements are met also.
    --- Compare them.
    The reason I mention them is because I just went through that on someone else's computer and a 2GB DDR5 solved their graphics performance just fine.
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  9.    12 Sep 2017 #29
    Join Date : Jul 2016
    Granite Bay, CA
    Posts : 718
    Windows 10 Professional

    Thanks for the reply. It's not a legacy card; I bought it from Fry's about a year ago or so. I don't want to upgrade hardware on my computer every year or so... I will only upgrade if a hardware device becomes physically damaged.

    The thing is that about a few months ago, everything was working flawlessly, then over time, (without me adjusting any graphics card settings), it all just so happened to become slightly "handicapped" for no reason. The most probable assumption is from Windows updates. I believe the most probable cause was after the Creator's Edition came out. I noticed this starting to happen after that big update. The thing is that it happens for a few minutes every few hours or so... sucks that it just happens to start its BS when I'm using the computer. But most of the time it's working perfectly.
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  10.    12 Sep 2017 #30
    Join Date : May 2016
    Massachusetts
    Posts : 240
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by pepanee View Post
    Thanks for the reply. It's not a legacy card; I bought it from Fry's about a year ago or so. I don't want to upgrade hardware on my computer every year or so... I will only upgrade if a hardware device becomes physically damaged.
    The thing is that about a few months ago, everything was working flawlessly, then over time, (without me adjusting any graphics card settings), it all just so happened to become slightly "handicapped" for no reason. The most probable assumption is from Windows updates. I believe the most probable cause was after the Creator's Edition came out. I noticed this starting to happen after that big update. The thing is that it happens for a few minutes every few hours or so... sucks that it just happens to start its BS when I'm using the computer. But most of the time it's working perfectly.
    I don't blame you: you certainly shouldn't have to upgrade hardware on your computer every year or so and I agree it isn't a Legacy card.
    If you haven't checked this out, maybe sooner or later it'll be worth checking it out: Drivers | GeForce
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