Windows 10: Woke Up and Found Win10 Upgrade already Downloaded

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  1. Posts : 14,325
    Windows 10 Insider Preview
       29 Jul 2015 #501

    meebers said: View Post
    After waiting all day for the notification to upgrade (via ~..BT) folder, I have started using the Download Tool. So what do we do with the $Windows.~BT folder. Will check disk take it off. I did save the install.esd anyways on a separate drive. Will also save the install.esd from the download tool. They should be the same?
    Possibly, Meebers, but the latest .esd may have the latest "patches". Or not. I'd be caught using the latest one.
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  2.    29 Jul 2015 #502

    I agree, will be using the latest one, the other 2 hold them for a week or so and erase. I would think though if they are a couple of patches short, windows update should catch them up??

    UPDATE: The install was looking good, screen said "checking for updates" Desktop is blank and has been so for 10min...

    AOK now, evidently the window minimized by itself and "hid" on the non visible taskbar. MS was waiting on me to agree to the license, I did and the install went without a hitch
    Last edited by meebers; 30 Jul 2015 at 12:41.
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  3. Posts : 3,357
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       29 Jul 2015 #503

    d2dyno said: View Post
    Just updated successfully from 8.1 Pro, via the Media Creation tool. Was getting the error from WU itself, thus I just used the tool. All went well, programs and files still intact, and license is activated. Device shows up on my Microsoft account, as Windows 10 & activated. Painless process
    Aren't you the lucky one?! First attempt starting upgrade while booted in Windows went through all the motions and restarts to run into total darkness after the new Startup logo screen passes. Note using flash drive method and for the second run booted live from flash drive where all the motions seemed to be going well until once again a black screen where it hangs up and for the second time I end up with:

    We couldn't install Windows 10 so we set your system back to the way it was.

    0x1900101 - 0x20017
    The installation failed in the Safe_OS mode with and error during the Boot Camp operation
    The only place I could trace that particular error wasn't the MS community but seen with an earlier TP build here at TF!
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  4.    29 Jul 2015 #504

    My update downloaded overnight and this evening I installed it from Windows Update in WIn 8.1

    The upgrade could not have gone more smoothly and was installed without a hitch.

    The only program I had to re-download and install was ZoneAlarm - there is a new version specifically for Win10.

    For those asking about Keys for Win10.

    They are not needed.

    As long as you have a qualifying product installed and use the download to Upgrade it, a key is not asked for and Win10 activates automatically.

    When it activates your computer ID and info is stored on their server as a legit user of Win10.
    So if you have need to re-install at a later stage no key will be required because when you re-install Win10 it will activate by comparing your computer ID etc with what is registered on their system - and as long as there are no changes to the initially registered hardware details, it will activate.

    This does mean that if you try to install and register Win10 on a different PC using the ISO, then activation will probably require a call to Microsoft for special codes.
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  5. Posts : 3,357
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       29 Jul 2015 #505

    For a full year 10 is free so they treat the RTM just as if you had signed up for the Windows Insider program and downloaded a TP build with the exception those did see temp keys there. Now for what I was pondering on earlier about MS randomizing things seems to hold true as most now should be seeing the Windows 10 app on the system tray and this popup if they had already reserved 10.

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    You will notice that the message there mentions: due to the high demand..." as suspected would tie up download servers and the first 190 countries would still overload things a bit if all at once everyone started downloading 10?!

    And as far as the need for product keys the usb flash drive installation key is intended for taking 10 to other devices, machines from where 10 is downloaded from in order to see upgrades to 10 performed indicating no one system per key requirement as has been seen since XP brought in activation. The dvd burn not choosing both 32bit and 64bit in a combination iso but only one per download as that will exceed the dvd blank's capacity does work however on larger then 6gb flash drives. The live boot however from made with the MS is intended for Clean Installs only.
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  6. Posts : 1,546
    W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
       29 Jul 2015 #506

    Night Hawk said: View Post
    For a full year 10 is free so they treat the RTM just as if you had signed up for the Windows Insider program and downloaded a TP build with the exception those did see temp keys there. Now for what I was pondering on earlier about MS randomizing things seems to hold true as most now should be seeing the Windows 10 app on the system tray and this popup if they had already reserved 10.


    You will notice that the message there mentions: due to the high demand..." as suspected would tie up download servers and the first 190 countries would still overload things a bit if all at once everyone started downloading 10?!

    And as far as the need for product keys the usb flash drive installation key is intended for taking 10 to other devices, machines from where 10 is downloaded from in order to see upgrades to 10 performed indicating no one system per key requirement as has been seen since XP brought in activation. The dvd burn not choosing both 32bit and 64bit in a combination iso but only one per download as that will exceed the dvd blank's capacity does work however on larger then 6gb flash drives. The live boot however from made with the MS is intended for Clean Installs only.
    The media installation usb flash /dvd tool can be used to upgrade as well but you have to do it within windows 7 or 8.1 from my understanding.
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  7.    29 Jul 2015 #507

    groze said: View Post
    The media installation usb flash /dvd tool can be used to upgrade as well but you have to do it within windows 7 or 8.1 from my understanding.
    Yes, you are correct.
    Once it is activated after, you can use it to make a ISO and do a clean install.
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  8. Posts : 11,224
    W10Prox64
       29 Jul 2015 #508

    Here are my findings today:

    W8.1 Home OEM-install (Lenovo) x64 laptop: updated from WU. Updated pretty easily; one of the "limited" user accounts had a broken STORE app, which I could not fix, so I had to copy files to another user account and just delete that user account. This computer was not an insider computer, but does have my MS login on the main administrative account. The new key generated after activation is NOT the generic key ending in 66t - it is a unique key. I had thought that since it was "related" to my MS (Insider) login, it would get the generic key, but it didn't.

    W7 Home Premium OEM-install (Dell) x64 laptop: W10 had been reserved, but upon boot this morning, the window icon in the tray disappeared. In WU it confirmed the reservation, but no download, and I could not get it to start the download at all. I had screenshots from yesterday, with GWX.exe showing the computer was ready for upgrade, and there were no apps or hardware considered incompatible, so I downloaded the media creation tool, and made a CORE x64 ISO. Once burned to disk, I upgraded the system from within W7. Doing it this way, I was never asked to input a key; I was never offered the option to wipe the hard drive. Activation was a bit fickle - it took several reboots before it finally kicked in. This machine was never registered with any MS account; a new MS account was created, in order to get Cortana working. I noticed on this machine that, when first booted, the hard drive was at 100% for a few minutes. Checking in Task Manager Details I found the culprits to be: I/O Reads=Dropbox, I/O Writes=OneDrive, and I/O Other = Defender. The amount of time the hard drive is at 100% seems to diminish with every boot.
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  9.    29 Jul 2015 #509

    Yup. I have a "$Windows.~BT" at 5.95GB on mah C. I watched it download in the taskbar too. Windows update didn't say anything, but the icon said some % of update.
    Now how do i get it to GO!?
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  10. Posts : 72
    W10 Home/W10 Pro
       30 Jul 2015 #510

    meebers said: View Post
    After waiting all day for the notification to upgrade (via ~..BT) folder, I have started using the Download Tool. So what do we do with the $Windows.~BT folder. Will check disk take it off. I did save the install.esd anyways on a separate drive. Will also save the install.esd from the download tool. They should be the same?

    Just checked: In addition to the $Windows.~BT file, I also have a $Windows~WS being generated by the download tool.

    After upgrading successfully to W10 I ran Disk Cleanup and that got rid of the $Windows~BT folder. The other hidden folder $Windows~WS is still there and I won't be touching it until I know it's safe to do so.

    Follow-up to above
    Have just seen on the Windows Insider Community forum that it's ok to delete both folders as they are just temporary folders.
    Last edited by Debbie; 30 Jul 2015 at 04:24.
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