1.    14 Aug 2017 #1
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    Windows 10 1607

    Copy files from old drive Home vs Pro


    I have experienced one of the least publicized differences between Win 10 Pro and Win 10 Home. I brought home a new IBUYPOWER machine and only "Home" was offered. I cloned the tiny 120GB SSD onto a new 480GB SSD and put the 120 in a drawer. That works well.

    The problem is that I tried unsuccessfully to connect my old drive from my previous machine with a SATA to USB3 cable device to copy the old files, pictures, ect. Files not under the "Users" folder are fine, but Win 10 Home would not allow me to request access/control to my account folder on the connected drive even though it is the same user name and password.

    Short of paying the money to upgrade to PRO just for this feature, (I don't need domain access or Bitlocker) is there another alternative?
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  2.    14 Aug 2017 #2
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    Crewe Cheshire
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    Welcome to the forum. A username is for humans Windows gives it sid a long list of numbers so when you try to read it even though the name is the same the sid isn't so you need to take ownership of the folders then you can read them they should show owned by a long. Number
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  3.    14 Aug 2017 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuria View Post
    Welcome to the forum. A username is for humans Windows gives it sid a long list of numbers so when you try to read it even though the name is the same the sid isn't so you need to take ownership of the folders then you can read them they should show owned by a long. Number
    Highlighted the solution.....
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  4.    14 Aug 2017 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuria View Post
    Welcome to the forum. A username is for humans Windows gives it sid a long list of numbers so when you try to read it even though the name is the same the sid isn't so you need to take ownership of the folders then you can read them they should show owned by a long. Number
    Ah, yes. Taking ownership. Something I have done hundreds of times as a Windows PRO user. Unfortunately Microsoft has crippled this ability in Windows 10 HOME which is what my new system shipped with. I need a different solution.
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  5.    14 Aug 2017 #5
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    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryLan View Post
    Ah, yes. Taking ownership. Something I have done hundreds of times as a Windows PRO user. Unfortunately Microsoft has crippled this ability in Windows 10 HOME which is what my new system shipped with. I need a different solution.
    There is no difference in taking ownership between my Home system and my Pro system. Provided, that is, that you are logged in with an administrator account.

    What you need is to describe in what way your system seems 'crippled' so that we can offer solutions. What error messages do you see when you try to take ownership, for instance?
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  6.    14 Aug 2017 #6
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    Windows 10 Pro,

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryLan View Post
    I have experienced one of the least publicized differences between Win 10 Pro and Win 10 Home. I brought home a new IBUYPOWER machine and only "Home" was offered. I cloned the tiny 120GB SSD onto a new 480GB SSD and put the 120 in a drawer. That works well.


    Just two observations on this post.


    The problem is that I tried unsuccessfully to connect my old drive from my previous machine with a SATA to USB3 cable device to copy the old files, pictures, ect. Files not under the "Users" folder are fine, but Win 10 Home would not allow me to request access/control to my account folder on the connected drive even though it is the same user name and password.

    Short of paying the money to upgrade to PRO just for this feature, (I don't need domain access or Bitlocker) is there another alternative?
    1. A home edition has the exact same function for this as a Pro edition.
    2. A 120 gb SSD is plenty big for a C: drive. I have been using a 120 gb SSD as my C: drive for Windows 10 for a couple of years and it has never gotten over about 65 gb. You can use your 120 gb SSD as a C: drive and use the larger SSD as a data drive.
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  7.    14 Aug 2017 #7
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    What they said +1. Taking ownership of files and folders is not crippled in Home. It works exactly the same way as it does in Pro.
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  8.    14 Aug 2017 #8
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    Use our tool to take ownership very simple Take Ownership Shortcut - Windows 7 Help Forums
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  9.    15 Aug 2017 #9
    Join Date : Mar 2015
    New Mexico
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    Windows 10 Pro,

    I just checked the properties of my current Windows 10 installation and it is a total of 46 gb large. I have a lot of different audio and video editing programs installed in addition to all of the other programs that I use daily, and 46 gb is the total size of my entire C: drive.

    You should consider changing back to the 120 gb SSD for your C: drive and use the larger drive for a data drive.

    Also, stick with Windows 10 home because you are not going to get anything useful out of upgrading to Windows 10 Pro.
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  10.    15 Aug 2017 #10
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Pacific Northwest, USA
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    Win10 x64 Pro -2 desktops, 1 laptop

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post
    I just checked the properties of my current Windows 10 installation and it is a total of 46 gb large. I have a lot of different audio and video editing programs installed in addition to all of the other programs that I use daily, and 46 gb is the total size of my entire C: drive.

    You should consider changing back to the 120 gb SSD for your C: drive and use the larger drive for a data drive.
    Boy, that really depends on your installed programs. No two installations are the same. The PC I use most has 108GB on the C drive. My Program Files(x86) is over 40GB all by itself. (Yes, I could have installed many of them on a different drive but I wanted them on my only SSD.) I have 16GB of AppData because I have several programs that use ApdData files - both Local and Roaming - as data repositories. (Bad design, in my opinion. but they forgot to ask me. ) My system would fit in that 120GB you are recommending, but I've got another 298GB on my D drive.

    As far as I know there is no downside to keeping the 480GB SSD ... if it's been paid for. It may be needed in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocky View Post

    Also, stick with Windows 10 home because you are not going to get anything useful out of upgrading to Windows 10 Pro.
    Again, it depends. Having the Group Policy Editor pushed me to Pro.
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