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  1.    08 Aug 2017 #1
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    What's the diff between win+x shutdown and desktop icon shutdown?


    I've always had a desktop shortcut to shutdown Win10 as follows:
    ..... TARGET: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 00
    However since switching to Win10 when I click that shutdown icon, Win10 can take a long time to shutdown.

    But if I press (win+x) and then do a shutdown that way, Win10 always shuts down in a minimum amount of time.

    It seems that the desktop shutdown is allowing Win10 to do any pending Win10 updates while the (win+x) shutdown just does a shutdown and ignores any pending Win10 updates. Is that correct?

    The desktop shutdown is aggravating when I'm troubleshooting a problem since it forces me to wait a long time for the shutdown to complete. How can I modify the desktop shortcut's TARGET to make it work like the (win+x) shutdown? Then I could have two desktop shutdowns and pick the one to use as appropriate.

    Thanks.
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  2.    08 Aug 2017 #2
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by mck View Post
    I've always had a desktop shortcut to shutdown Win10 as follows:
    ..... TARGET: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 00
    However since switching to Win10 when I click that shutdown icon, Win10 can take a long time to shutdown.

    But if I press (win+x) and then do a shutdown that way, Win10 always shuts down in a minimum amount of time.

    It seems that the desktop shutdown is allowing Win10 to do any pending Win10 updates while the (win+x) shutdown just does a shutdown and ignores any pending Win10 updates. Is that correct?

    The desktop shutdown is aggravating when I'm troubleshooting a problem since it forces me to wait a long time for the shutdown to complete. How can I modify the desktop shortcut's TARGET to make it work like the (win+x) shutdown? Then I could have two desktop shutdowns and pick the one to use as appropriate.

    Thanks.
    I know there are different flavors of Shutdown switches and values, but I can't remember the best one. I do know @Kari has a shutdown command that is quick and complete. Maybe he will pop it here.
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  3.    09 Aug 2017 #3
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,458
    W10 Insider + Linux

    Quote Originally Posted by mck View Post
    I've always had a desktop shortcut to shutdown Win10 as follows:
    ..... TARGET: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe /s /t 00
    However since switching to Win10 when I click that shutdown icon, Win10 can take a long time to shutdown.

    But if I press (win+x) and then do a shutdown that way, Win10 always shuts down in a minimum amount of time.

    It seems that the desktop shutdown is allowing Win10 to do any pending Win10 updates while the (win+x) shutdown just does a shutdown and ignores any pending Win10 updates. Is that correct?

    The desktop shutdown is aggravating when I'm troubleshooting a problem since it forces me to wait a long time for the shutdown to complete. How can I modify the desktop shortcut's TARGET to make it work like the (win+x) shutdown? Then I could have two desktop shutdowns and pick the one to use as appropriate.

    Thanks.
    This is my shutdown command and it shuts it down fast and irrevocably: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00
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  4.    09 Aug 2017 #4
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    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    This is my shutdown command and it shuts it down fast and irrevocably: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00
    I'll create another desktop shutdown shortcut using your method and see how it works.
    Thanks.
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  5.    10 Aug 2017 #5
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    Serbia
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    Quote Originally Posted by mck View Post
    I'll create another desktop shutdown shortcut using your method and see how it works.
    Thanks.
    You can also use it thru Command prompt or Run.
    For Restart: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -R -F -T 00
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  6.    11 Aug 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    This is my shutdown command and it shuts it down fast and irrevocably: %windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -f -t 00
    Quote Originally Posted by mck View Post
    I'll create another desktop shutdown shortcut using your method and see how it works.
    Thanks.
    I tried using your shutdown options but unfortunately it appears that it's the same as my current desktop shortcut shutdown (%windir%\System32\shutdown.exe -s -t 00") without the "-f forced" option.
    I think the -f option just forces any open programs to close but still allows Win10 updating to occur.

    I'll have to wait for a long Win10 update to really be sure though.
    Thanks,
    mck
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  7.    11 Aug 2017 #7
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    Serbia
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    Did you have a look at BIOS, maybe something is preventing full shutdown ?
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  8.    11 Aug 2017 #8
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    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Did you have a look at BIOS, maybe something is preventing full shutdown ?
    Hi CountMike,

    I don't have any problem doing a full shutdown. I wanted to know what's the difference between doing my desktop shortcut shutdown verses doing a (winkey+x) shutdown. I think my desktop shortcut shutdown can take a long time because it's allowing Win10 updates to happen automatically.

    Thanks,
    mck
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  9.    11 Aug 2017 #9
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Central Florida
    Posts : 346
    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32

    MCK
    Edit your shutdown shortcut to change the "t 00" to "t 1". It will work better. Windows does not seem to understand "00' to mean a legitimate number. I've been there, and done that. Give it a whilr!

    Happy Trails, Mate!
    TechnoMage
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  10.    11 Aug 2017 #10
    Join Date : Jul 2015
    Posts : 9,416
    Windows 10 Pro

    Try turning off Windows 10 Fast Startup:
    Turn On or Off Fast Startup in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials

    Also try disabling Hibernation:
    powercfg.exe /hibernate off
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