Windows 10: Do Insiders Really Need to Download What We Already Have?

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  1.    27 Jul 2015 #31

    fracking4oil said: View Post
    I'm not making any assumptions, I'm asking questions because so many others are making assumptions that insiders will be hogging the servers thus no one but insiders will get Win 10 until days or even weeks later.
    How about this wild guess. There's a large number of servers. They aren't all on the same IP address. The update program on your computer has been assigned an IP to go to and the date you are eligible downloaded in one of the many previous updates. The IP is based on your OS, if and when (!) you signed up for Win 10 and your product key. That would be a moderately simple process compared to designing the whole new OS.

    Alternately its a free-for-all and the biggest DOS attack you've ever seen.
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       27 Jul 2015 #32

    Rocky said: View Post
    I think that you missed my point because your post pretty much just repeated what my post had already said. Nobody really knows what Microsoft will send out on the 29th, it might be a complete new build or it might just be an update to build 10240. Only time will tell.
    Well somebody missed someone's point

    Let me use the words of MS to try and clear up what I meant:

    Windows 10 Features - Microsoft
    scroll down to the bottom of this page for the following information

    Windows Offer Details

    Yes, free! This upgrade offer is for a full version of Windows 10, not a trial.

    3GB download required; standard data rates apply.

    To take advantage of this free offer, you must upgrade to Windows 10 within one year of availability.
    Once you upgrade, you have Windows 10 for free on that device.
    .....
    The above explicitly states that a 3GB download is required. That was what I was trying to say - should have just posted this instead of goofing around

    I'm having a bit 'o fun in these last days so please don't take offense.
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       27 Jul 2015 #33

    Slartybart said: View Post
    Well somebody missed someone's point

    Let me use the words of MS to try and clear up what I meant:



    The above explicitly states that a 3GB download is required. That was what I was trying to say - should have just posted this instead of goofing around

    I'm having a bit 'o fun in these last days so please don't take offense.
    That actually settles nothing. Certainly, people who are upgrading from 7 or 8.1 are looking at a 3 G download. That says nothing about Insiders that have been running 10240 for a week and more.
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       27 Jul 2015 #34

    So, I take it no one believes this article.


    Don’t be surprised if Terry Myerson announces on July 29 that Insiders are already running the “real” Windows 10 -- and have been running it for a couple of weeks.
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  5.    27 Jul 2015 #35

    Sigh, from that article, "Conjecture: Windows Insiders already have the “final” version of Windows 10." What is there to believe? It's just more conjecture. As he states " No, I can’t prove it.". Yes I believe he doesn't know either.
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       27 Jul 2015 #36

    groze said: View Post
    So, I take it no one believes this article.
    Did you read my post? I (and many others) think it likely that Insiders running 10240 essentially have the 'release' bits, when you consider all the updates. But something needs to happen on the 29th to turn it into the 'real deal'. It could be as simple as a small update that tweaks some internal markers, and then asks if you want to remain in Insiders or not.
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  7.    27 Jul 2015 #37

    sgage said: View Post
    Did you read my post? I (and many others) think it likely that Insiders running 10240 essentially have the 'release' bits, when you consider all the updates. But something needs to happen on the 29th to turn it into the 'real deal'. It could be as simple as a small update that tweaks some internal markers, and then asks if you want to remain in Insiders or not.
    I'm one of the others that agrees with you. I just don't get the question of "do I agree with an article" that doesn't actually answer said question one way of another. Just more guess work. It's not the final release until Microsoft makes it the final release on the 29th. IMHO.
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       27 Jul 2015 #38

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I'm one of the others that agrees with you. I just don't get the question of "do I agree with an article" that doesn't actually answer said question one way of another. Just more guess work. It's not the final release until Microsoft makes it the final release on the 29th. IMHO.
    I know - the sheer amount of churning this issue is rather absurd. I think the suspense must be getting to some folks...
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  9.    27 Jul 2015 #39

    sgage said: View Post
    Did you read my post? I (and many others) think it likely that Insiders running 10240 essentially have the 'release' bits, when you consider all the updates. But something needs to happen on the 29th to turn it into the 'real deal'. It could be as simple as a small update that tweaks some internal markers, and then asks if you want to remain in Insiders or not.
    I agree with you. I think those of us with 10240 are just a couple of tweaks away from the RTM version. I don't expect a 3gb file to download to me in the next two days.
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  10.    27 Jul 2015 #40

    groze said: View Post
    So, I take it no one believes this article.
    Everything looked reasonable until this last "Fact".
    Fact: You’d have to be stone-cold crazy to install Windows 10 on a production machine on July 29

    I am going to do exactly that on my new Dell XPS8700. Okay I do have full backup of ALL my files on a USB HDD and the other computer running Win 8.1 so maybe I'm only slightly crazy.
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