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  1.    26 Jul 2017 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonefly View Post
    I looked for previous posts on this subject, but they're old. I tried the suggestions in those posts, however, but they didn't help.

    Sometimes the search box in windows explorer will find a document containing a word. Sometimes it won't, even when I know the document I'm looking for is somewhere in my documents file. The one thing it will not do is find a string of text. I know, from memory, that at one time, on my older computers, I could find any file at any time in an instant, just by typing in a string of text. This was invaluable to me. I might not remember the name of the document, but I could usually remember a few words that were in the document. I considered this an extremely valuable feature of windows. There was never a time when I couldn't call up a document based on a few words of text. Emphasis on "was never."

    I can't do it any more. The file search does not work. How can I find a document by typing in a string of a few words?
    You should try using Everything search tool, its much better than Windows search tool. Its also a Free app.

    Everything Search Tool
    voidtools
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  2.    26 Jul 2017 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldMike65 View Post
    You should try using Everything search tool, its much better than Windows search tool. Its also a Free app.

    Everything Search Tool
    voidtools
    They want to search file content - that is look for the phrase "Hali said" contained in all Word or pdf files for example.

    From my experience Windows search is by far the fastest way to do this.

    Everything will find it but it is slow - from their FAQ
    Does Everything search file contents?
    Yes, "Everything" can search file content with the content: search function.
    File content is not indexed, searching content is slow.
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  3.    26 Jul 2017 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by lx07 View Post
    They want to search file content - that is look for the phrase "Hali said" contained in all Word or pdf files for example.

    From my experience Windows search is by far the fastest way to do this.

    Everything will find it but it is slow - from their FAQ
    Ahh, ok Hali, didn't catch that part I guess. Still like Everything better thou. Hope you are doing well old friend.
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  4.    26 Jul 2017 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by lx07 View Post
    I too rely on searching for text snippets within pdf documents. Before Windows 8 you needed to install an extension (called an iFilter) to do this - I used the Adobe and then (at the time faster) Foxit filters to search for text strings in pdf.

    In Windows 8 or 10 there is no need for these old programs any more - just make sure the "Index Properties and File Contents" is selected and use the default Reader Search Handler.

    Attachment 145660

    It works perfectly well.
    Hi lx07, just wondered if you could explain how to select this Reader Search Handler please? (I don't recall seeing this).
    I had previously had pdf's indexed, but changed pdf reader. So I found in Indexing Options, File Types, no filter assigned for pdf's. (Not every pdf reader has one, so changing readers seems likely to prevent pdf's being indexed). So I installed the Adobe ifilter.

    You seem to have Sumatra as your pdf reader; I reassigned it as default to see what would happen, but still see 'PDF Filter' in Indexing Options, File Types, as before.

    Thanks.
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  5.    26 Jul 2017 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Hi lx07, just wondered if you could explain how to select this Reader Search Handler please? (I don't recall seeing this).
    Since Windows 8 the default filter for pdf is the (built in) Reader Search Handler. This allows you to find text strings in pdf.

    Note   Note
    Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012 and later provide native support for indexing pdf-files. This applies to both the 32-bit and the 64-bit editions and is done via the Reader Search Handler. Installing the Adobe PDF iFilter is therefor optional.
    https://www.howto-outlook.com/downlo...fpreviewer.htm

    I often search for variable names in files or the names of other programs called. Most files are .txt but some (documentation) are pdf. I have about 100k files I search (95% .txt) so search performance is important. Windows Search gives the answer as fast as I type. Using Notepad++ search within files can take 10 or 15 minutes.

    I'm not sure how you would revert to default filter - uninstall the Adobe one I guess. I've clean installed way too many times since I used it to remember.

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    You seem to have Sumatra as your pdf reader
    I do indeed (I like it and the screenshot was from my normal PC). It makes no difference though - it only shows the default program to open pdf - the filter is a separate thing.

    This is from clean install with nothing installed - the filter is the same with Edge as the default reader.

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  6.    26 Jul 2017 #16
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    Thanks- seems to be the case that once that default is lost there's no obvious way to restore it; it seems setting certain readers (or maybe installing them) causes it to be lost.

    It was because I didn't have one (but know I used to!) that I installed the Adobe filter.
    I used to use Foxit - which is referred to in your posted link.

    As you say, setting Edge as default doesn't cause the default filter to reappear.

    PDF Search Stops Working In Windows 8 64-Bit | Bruceb News


    Fix to restore default handler:
    PDF search breaks after 11.0 install of Adobe Acrobat or Reader
    from
    Has Adobe Acrobat DC broken Windows 8.1 pdf search again - Microsoft Community
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  7.    26 Jul 2017 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Are you sure all the text in the pdf's in question is actually text, not image?
    And do you have a pdf ifilter? It's not enough simply to see pdf listed, there must also be an ifilter present.
    Attachment 145457
    Attachment 145458
    Installing an iflter requires rebuilding the index for it to be effective.

    Note that changing your pdf viewer can remove the ifilter.

    And you must have file explorer open at a point in the file tree higher than what you want to search for.

    Note: Google Desktop search (obsolete,free) is still available, then there's Copernic Desktop Search and X1 (commercial).

    GDS also had an Omnipage plugin that dealt with OCR for image based documents very well.
    I have now installed iFilter, re-indexed and the list of file types you quote shows the following:

    Click image for larger version. 

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    Using Windows key + S I have searched for text in several PDFs deeply buried in folders and it works, lightning fast. Thanks.
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  8.    26 Jul 2017 #18
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    Excellent! It is somewhat frustrating that one has to fiddle with spanners and screwdrivers to get these things to work.
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  9.    31 Jul 2017 #19
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    Thanks for the replies. I'll need to be searching for files in a few days. I will refer to these suggestions and perhaps my problem will be solved.

    Thanks again.
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