1.    19 Jul 2017 #1
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    Turning Cortana off while being able to search for My apps/files?


    Hi I would like to add some things about my pc I am also running a Samsung 960 EVO m.2 500gb as my OS drive. I am basically having the problem stated in my title. This is a recently built pc and pretty much everything is working the way I want it to save for this search function. I want to be able to turn on Cortana and still be able to search for my apps pics files and all my drives.

    Normally you would just type in steam discord or whatever name of the app your looking for would show up in windows search and there it is nothing shows up besides just windows basic options. I am using Windows 10 PRO OEM and used GPEDIT to turn off Cortana. I have restarted tried messing with the indexing but I remember all the changes I made so I can revert it if nec. Any help would be appreciated and if any more information is needed pls let me know.

    Also this happens whether or not they are installed on my EVO OS drive or not.
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  2.    19 Jul 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jan 2015
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    Here's my limited understanding of how Cortana search works and its limitations, which I have posted before.

    1. Cortana search only finds things which have been indexed.
    2. It will not find any form of executable file by design
    3. You cannot turn web search off completely
    4. When you type sthg in the search bar (e.g. Windows key + S) look at the top and mouse over the top row of icons and then click Filters to see how to focus your search.

    Is teamspeak visible in the Start Menu? I've seen that sort of problem reported before.

    Are you saying it won't find any universal apps such as Photos, Groove, Store etc?

    You say you have changed some locations in Indexing Options. Take care, as whilst adding things is perfectly valid, you can stop search working in Settings (worth checking that works - i.e. quickly (= indexed).

    If you want a start menu search that works properly and is much more configurable, use Classic Shell start menu (free). Also handles more deeply nested Start Menus correctly (Win 10's doesn't).
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  3.    19 Jul 2017 #3
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    No it finds the microsoft installed programs such as paint and notepad but if i try to search for my own video files or desktop programs yes it wont find those. Also Teamspeak is in my start menu. Alot of microsoft installed programs i do not have set as default anymore like windows likes to do.

    If I must I will just try classic shell as you suggested

    btw thank you for the help .
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  4.    20 Jul 2017 #4
    Join Date : Jan 2015
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    Finding results in own docs:
    1. they must be indexed
    2. Example: I have a test document on H: containing text aardvark. To have that displayed as a search result in Cortana (Windows key + S) I type aardvark in the search box, then click the icon 'Find results in documents' at the top of Cortana's window.

    Does that work for you for one of yours?

    Secondly, if Cortana can't find your document, what happens if you launch file explorer and use its search box?
    If search doesn't work then either, it's nothing to do with Cortana, but is to dowith whether search is working for you and whether your document is indexed.

    An easy way to check if Windows search is working is to open Indexing Options (Control Panel), note the number of indexed items, then create a new file in an indexed location and check the number indexed increments.

    Does that work for you?


    I don't know why Teamspeak isn't found if search is working, but as i said there have been other reports of people struggling with failure to find items in the start menu. Try the above first.

    Alot of microsoft installed programs i do not have set as default anymore like windows likes to do.
    - sorry, don't really understand this.

    1. You can't set a program as default from within a program.
    2. There is a tutorial in the Tutorial section detailing the different ways to set defaults.
    3. Some have found their chosen defaults being overridden on restart, and there are threads on that if that is your problem.

    Just compared searching using Cortana and Classic Shell start menu for a program I've installed called
    Fileminimizer

    Searching for minimiz with Cortana didn't find it even when I clicked 'Find results in apps'
    - whereas with Classic Shell start menu, mini or minim offered it as top result.

    Cortana requires you to start with the first character. Using *minim doesn't help.
    Last edited by dalchina; 20 Jul 2017 at 08:08.
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