1.    19 Jul 2017 #1
    Join Date : Apr 2016
    Posts : 222
    Windows 10 Pro 1511

    My computer's Strange behavior


    Hello,Because of the updates problem, I disabled the windows update optiom in the "Task manager" services.However, when I turn on the computer I notice there is a great amount of network 'action', I take a look into the system tree and find "Windows 10 upgrade" folder has been downloaded, open the 'services' and see something has triggered the update option to be enabled again.What triggers it and how to disable it ?Spent some time reading about this 'Creators update / upgrade', as I understood (correct me if I'm wrong), I will loose Office and all my installed programs, and will have to pay for a licence.Answers will be appreciated.ThanksMotim
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  2.    19 Jul 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jul 2017
    UK
    Posts : 9
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Hi,

    Out of curiosity what service(s) did you disable for Windows Update?

    And when I was prompted for the Creators Upgrade, at the time of receiving it, I hadn't done much research on it and mistakenly installed it. Despite having numerous issues, loosing applications and them being uninstalled is not something that I have encountered, nor has anyone else I know who has also installed the update

    Only issue I received was networking issues, where the internet drops off every couple of minutes due to WiFi Sense, but that's a different topic all together.

    Let me know what service(s) you disabled and I'll try and help as best as I can

    Thanks
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  3.    19 Jul 2017 #3
    Join Date : Aug 2016
    S/E England
    Posts : 4,524
    10 Home x64 (1709) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)

    Quote Originally Posted by Motim View Post
    Spent some time reading about this 'Creators update / upgrade', as I understood (correct me if I'm wrong), I will loose Office and all my installed programs, and will have to pay for a licence.
    Don't know where you got that idea. If your current Windows 10 version 1511 is activated with a digital entitlement (see Settings>Update & security>Activation) then the licence is valid for upgrading to the Creators Update.

    An upgrade to a newer version of Windows 10 will retain all your files and installed programs too. The only case where the upgrade may ask for a program to be uninstalled would be where it was incompatible. This would NOT be the case for Office, but may (for example) apply to some third-party AVs where an updated (compatible) version should be available.

    I still have Office running on my machines that was installed back when they were running Windows 7. It has remained installed through the upgrade to Windows 10 v1511 and subsequent upgrades to Anniversary Update (1607) and now the Creators Update (1703).

    The only way to loose all installed programs would be to do a clean install. The only time you'd have to buy a licence would be if you wanted to switch from your licenced copy of Home to the Pro version (or vice versa).
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  4.    19 Jul 2017 #4
    Join Date : Apr 2016
    Posts : 222
    Windows 10 Pro 1511
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    My computer's strange behavior


    Quote Originally Posted by iBlob View Post
    Hi,
    Out of curiosity what service(s) did you disable for Windows Update?
    Let me know what service(s) you disabled and I'll try and help as best as I can
    Thanks
    Hello,Thanks for the answers.1. Here is my answer to "iBlob": In the 'Task Manager\Services' right-clicked on 'wuauserv' and selected 'stop',then selected 'open services', there right-clicked on 'Windows update' selected 'properties' and in the line 'startup type' selected 'disabled' apply and ok.2. And my answer to "Bree": Noted some sites I read about this upgrade problems, could not find the rest of them."https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/04/26/stop_downloading_win10_creators_update/""https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-creators-update-user-experience-complaints""https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/windows-creators-update-problems-fixes/""http://www.express.co.uk/life-style/science-technology/798297/Windows-10-Creators-update-download-Microsoft-warning"And by the way, on one out of many answers I got from this forum, was advised to download the update Iso file so I can burn it on a dvd disk.Followed the tutorial "https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/81031-update-latest-version-windows-10-using-update-assistant.html", clicked on 'update now' and it just downloaded some 1.6 GB .exe file.
    Thanks again
    Motim
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  5.    20 Jul 2017 #5
    Join Date : Jul 2017
    UK
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    As well as disabling those services you also would need to disable the BITS service as well (Background Intelligent Transfer Service)

    Try this first and then double check to see if your problem is persisting.

    If it is then try disabling everything through command prompt (as administrator)

    The code would be as follows:

    net stop wuauserv


    You should then see that the service has been stopped.

    Then you need to change the config to stop the server from restarting automatically by using this code:

    C:\>sc config wuauserv start= disabled

    You should then see a message stating that the config has been changed successfully.

    Let me know how you get on

    Thanks

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  6.    20 Jul 2017 #6
    Join Date : May 2016
    Massachusetts
    Posts : 240
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

    Expected 1511 Current Branch End-of-Life Date: September 2017*
    Understanding The Windows 10 Branching Timeline (As of 7/7/17)

    I know it's possible to keep your applications and data when upgrading to a newer version under normal situations.

    I'd have to investigate the correct procedure for you but I've got business to take care of.
    Someone else may know that more naturally than I do.

    Have you examined the recommendations I mentioned in
    Computer's Bad Habits - Windows 10 Forums
    I suspect you'll be alright letting the computer naturally update to a newer version, myself I'd prefer 1703: And always allow natural WU's to happen. Take the necessary precautions before starting and then allow enough time to get by the black screen issue.
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