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  1.    11 Jun 2017 #11
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    Thanks. I would never have guessed that square black box was "neutral", and I wouldn't (and didn't) have any idea how to look it up.
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  2.    11 Jun 2017 #12
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  3.    11 Jun 2017 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    The mark for the folder is neutral, and doesn't indicate read-only or not read-only.
    We clearly are not looking at the same thing, Brink. I see a black square completely darkened to indicate that the read-only is the one selected.
    Last edited by Brink; 11 Jun 2017 at 18:55. Reason: fixed quote box
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  4.    11 Jun 2017 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by larrydonline View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    The mark for the folder is neutral, and doesn't indicate read-only or not read-only.
    We clearly are not looking at the same thing, Brink. I see a black square completely darkened to indicate that the read-only is the one selected.
    Did it look like what's in the blue note box at the top of the tutorial below?

    Set or Unset Read-only Attribute of Files and Folders in Windows 10 Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials
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  5.    11 Jun 2017 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brink View Post
    The mark for the folder is neutral, and doesn't indicate read-only or not read-only.
    We clearly are not looking at the same thing, Brink. I see a black square completely darkened to indicate that the read-only is the one selected.
    After reading the tutorial you will see that the completely darkened box indicates read-only only to someone applying logic. But this is Microsoft. A check means "read-only"; a blank means "read-write"; a black square means "eh?"

    More specifically (if I understand what I read), a check (when set by you) means "change files to read-only" or (when temporarily set by Windows) "changing files to read-only". A blank (when set by you) means "change files to read-write" or (when temporarily set by Windows) "changing files to read-write". A black square seems to mean "you haven't selected so Windows is doing nothing".

    Now, how anybody would intuitively know that is beyond me. Thank heavens for TenForums.
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  6.    11 Jun 2017 #16
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    Yeah, I didn't understand the meaning of "Neutral setting". It certainly looks like it's been selected.

    I've also never been able to navigate the "take ownership" menus in order to delete a folder that says I don't have permission to delete it. I've looked at them many times but never succeeded in changing anything. The built-in instructions don't tell me enough. Is there a tutorial on doing that?

    Thanks for all the replies.
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  7.    11 Jun 2017 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by larrydonline View Post
    Yeah, I didn't understand the meaning of "Neutral setting". It certainly looks like it's been selected.

    I've also never been able to navigate the "take ownership" menus in order to delete a folder that says I don't have permission to delete it. I've looked at them many times but never succeeded in changing anything. The built-in instructions don't tell me enough. Is there a tutorial on doing that?

    Thanks for all the replies.
    If you like, you could use the "Take Ownership" context menu added with the tutorial below to make it easier to do.

    Add Take Ownership to Context Menu in Windows 10 Windows 10 Customization Tutorials
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  8.    11 Jun 2017 #18
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    Thanks, Brink. That may solve the problem. I'll have to find the troublesome file and try it out.

    Another useful hack I've always added to the registry for years, going back to windows 7 is "Copy to folder" and "Move to folder". They are so incredibly handy I don't know why they aren't just built into the OS. With those added to the context menu you can save or move things around without even opening the target folder where you are copying/moving files to.
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  9.    11 Jun 2017 #19
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    MS screwed up "Read-only" starting with Vista.
    Windows totally ignores it.

    A checkbox showing a square normally indicates a partial selection.
    Since it does nothing on folders, it shouldn't even appear (or it should be greyed out).
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