Windows 10: Windows 10 slow startup, short black screen before Welcome screen

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  1. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 64-bit (10586.1045)
    Thread Starter
       10 Jun 2017 #11

    zinou said: View Post
    If you have already updated your drivers, so it's time to fire up Windows Performance Toolkit...
    Download it from here Windows ADK downloads - Windows Hardware Dev Center

    Take a boot trace and share the result. We will se what's going on in each boot phases

    Find in my blog a tutorial on how to take a boot trace. How to use WPR to record Windows boot process | zinetek

    This tool is intended to solve Windows boot Performance issues. Windows 7 slow logon troubleshooting | zinetek
    dalchina said: View Post
    @zinou - wouldn't it be wise to find out why it's not even updating before trying to analyse boot problems- further, why diagnose an old build like this?

    Far better to do an upgrade one way or another- and that may well resolve everything.

    That an old build is in use may even be linked to a slow boot.

    I'm trying to reach a point where either Windows update will work, or, more simply, get a manual upgrade done.

    I would prefer that, having checked the disk, the OP simply downloads an iso, creates a bootable Win 10 medium, and upgrades the Windows build.
    dalchina said: View Post
    Ok, let's look at this differently.
    1. You have a very old build. Again, could you explain why you are using an old build?

    Note that with current builds MS is continually updating their compatibility lists (see the multiple installs of one update which is continually updated - confusing new approach). Yours is a new PC - is it possible that because you are using an old Windows build you're not getting the latest drivers?

    2. Please confirm that Windows Update fails on your PC.

    Please post a screenshot of your Update History like this:
    Attachment 138814

    3. Please confirm you have done nothing to disable Windows update, and have not set your connection as 'metered'.
    Alright sorry guys for not clearing this up enough but, I got the latest drivers straight from AMD. Radeon Crimson 17.6 to be exact.

    My seller doesn't recommend me to update my OS, and i know that's kind of a huge problem. I've stayed with temporary activators for now until i purchase a key in a month or two cause i barely have money, i'm just a student and this is just my college PC.

    I've ran chkdsk, sfc, dism, and defrags. Nothing's showing up.

    I'll try to run the Performance Toolkit and post the logs, and if there's really no way around,
    i guess i'll just deal with this stuff until this PC breaks.

    Thanks again
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  2. Posts : 8,721
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       10 Jun 2017 #12

    HootenannyMagic said: View Post

    My seller doesn't recommend me to update my OS,
    What was the explanation?
    That takes away a lot of free options.
    For example a corrupt operating system then what?
    You should leave yourself the backup option of in place upgrade to solve problems.
    That would enable you to keep files, applications etc. and solve most computer problems.

    Was there any change in performance with clean boot?

    Is it only a cold boot problem or are you also having problems with wake from hibernation or sleep?

    See if turning off fast start up has any performance impact too.

    The Pros and Cons of Windows 10 Mode
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  3. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 64-bit (10586.1045)
    Thread Starter
       10 Jun 2017 #13

    zinou said: View Post
    If you have already updated your drivers, so it's time to fire up Windows Performance Toolkit...
    Download it from here Windows ADK downloads - Windows Hardware Dev Center

    Take a boot trace and share the result. We will se what's going on in each boot phases

    Find in my blog a tutorial on how to take a boot trace. How to use WPR to record Windows boot process | zinetek

    This tool is intended to solve Windows boot Performance issues. Windows 7 slow logon troubleshooting | zinetek
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    It seems like winlogon.exe and svchost.exe are having issues... I don't know why.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  4. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 64-bit (10586.1045)
    Thread Starter
       10 Jun 2017 #14

    zbook said: View Post
    What was the explanation?
    That takes away a lot of free options.
    For example a corrupt operating system then what?
    You should leave yourself the backup option of in place upgrade to solve problems.
    That would enable you to keep files, applications etc. and solve most computer problems.

    Was there any change in performance with clean boot?

    Is it only a cold boot problem or are you also having problems with wake from hibernation or sleep?

    See if turning off fast start up has any performance impact too.

    The Pros and Cons of Windows 10 Mode
    It's basically because my seller installed an unactivated copy. As i said, i'm temporarily using activators until i buy a key.

    And about corruption...if you don't mean stuff other than Windows OS system files corruption, then no. The OS files aren't corrupted. I checked sfc multiple times...
    First time i checked it, it fixed some problems, and the black screen was gone on the restart sequence (but slow still).

    Yes, the black screen was still there on a cold boot.

    Boot time didn't really change with clean boot.

    Turned off fast startup...still nothing..
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  5.    11 Jun 2017 #15

    HootenannyMagic said: View Post
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    It seems like winlogon.exe and svchost.exe are having issues... I don't know why.
    Can you share the boot trace ? So I can take a look...
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  6. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 64-bit (10586.1045)
    Thread Starter
       11 Jun 2017 #16

    zinou said: View Post
    Can you share the boot trace ? So I can take a look...
    Doesn't the trace record personally identifiable information?
    I'm quite afraid of sharing stuff like that
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  7.    11 Jun 2017 #17

    HootenannyMagic said: View Post
    Doesn't the trace record personally identifiable information?
    I'm quite afraid of sharing stuff like that
    There is only technical informations about your config, Computer brand, CPU, amount of RAM... etc. no password, No sensitive informations are recorded...

    you can send me the download link by private messaging...if you want
      My ComputerSystem Spec


  8. Posts : 19
    Windows 10 64-bit (10586.1045)
    Thread Starter
       12 Jun 2017 #18

    zinou said: View Post
    There is only technical informations about your config, Computer brand, CPU, amount of RAM... etc. no password, No sensitive informations are recorded...

    you can send me the download link by private messaging...if you want
    Alright thanks i'll PM it to you, Internet is extremely retarded here in my country i only have like, 400kbps upload speed lmao. Anyhow thanks
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 
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