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  1.    04 Jun 2017 #1
    Join Date : Jun 2017
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    windows 10

    Windows 10 getting "Automatic repairing" and "diagnosing PC" messages


    I am in desperate need of help! First, I normally do back up, but my back up drive and recovery disks were stolen about 2 weeks ago while we were moving and I had not bought a new backup since.

    System is configured as:
    Lenovo T520
    mSata (primary drive)
    SSD for 2nd and 3rd drive.

    I have many pieces of software some very complicated to reinstall (and many of the original disks were stolen like Chief Architect and some of my 3d cad software) , and have many accounts (I run several businesses) for email so I DON'T want to "clean" install.

    I DO still have all of my data, so that is at least not too bad.

    History is that yesterday, I lost access to my networks, and could not reconnect to get internet connections. I tried powering down and the computer was taking over 5 minutes (no messages about updating)
    So I powered down with the power button.

    After that, I tried to re-power the computer and I got a message "preparing to automatically repair" and then it went into Diagnosing this PC.

    I have tried to go to a previous restore point to no avail (goes through all of the steps, but after finishing, says it was not able to and that the process made no changes.
    I have tried rebooting using the Advanced Options and was given me the choice of sever things and tried Safeboot (I could boot to Safe Mode with command, but no other options worked)

    I tried booting off of my first SSD, as this was on old boot drive, but it did not boot, said "inaccessible boot" (I may have formatted after I installed the mSata, but I thought I let it.)

    I have since purchased a new HDD, and have removed the 2 SSDs. I have installed Win 10 (clean, non OEM version) onto this new drive.

    I can BOOT into Win 10 and see my mSATA and all looks OK. I have chkdsk /f /x /r and it spent all night doing stuff (mostly in the finding bad blocks portion, but in the end said no errors found. )

    I am looking for help on how I can FIX my old boot drive.

    Thanks in advance!

    Bruce
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  2.    04 Jun 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 11,012
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Hello, if I understand this, your mSATA disk is the one you are concerned about.

    It will not boot normally, and is stuck in an automatic repair loop.

    Given that, I'm wondering how you were able to do this:
    I have tried to go to a previous restore point to no avail (goes through all of the steps, but after finishing, says it was not able to and that the process made no changes.
    I have tried rebooting using the Advanced Options and was given me the choice of sever things and tried Safeboot (I could boot to Safe Mode with command, but no other options worked)
    - did you boot from a Win 10 install medium?

    Thanks.
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  3.    04 Jun 2017 #3
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    windows 10
    Thread Starter

    It is the mSATA I am concerned about.
    The "loop"
    is between Automatic Repair, which then goes to Diagnosis of your PC.
    In the Diagnosis of your PC, there are several options and one is Advanced Options when does include to boot safe mode and Command Prompt (Not on the boot partition, but X: drive). I was wrong, I could NOT get into safe mode, but WAS able to get to command prompt.
    I have ALSO parallel installed on a clean second drive and can BOOT and access the disk for any manipulations if I need to

    From the command prompt listed above (booting to the X: drive), I ran:
    bootrec /fixmbrbootrec /fixbootbootrec /scanosbootrec /rebuildbcd

    and
    SFC /SCANNOW

    But I think that since they were not on the boot partition, they did not do what I needed on the C: drive.

    I did not seem to have rights to the mSATA in the new install, I just added rights and and got a could of could not enumerate errors when I assigned rights to myself. (hopefully this does not screw anything up)
    I am going to try to create an autoexec.bat that has the above commands and see if that will run before it traps into the autorepair loop (I dont know at what point that it starting, but it is something I can TRY.)

    Thanks
    Bruce
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  4.    04 Jun 2017 #4
    Join Date : Apr 2017
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit

    Create a bootable windows 10 iso. With this you can repair most windows 10 computers with an in place upgrade. Many hours can be spent troubleshooting and if you find the solution its rewarding. Other times it may appear fruitless. Having the back up plan with an in place upgrade adds a lot of comfort allowing you to try things that you be hesitant to try that could make a fix. And if you have files backed up and there are not a ton of applications to reinstall there is always a clean install. And finally if you have multiple computers having one bootable flash drive gives you many options.

    Download Windows 10


    Repair Install Windows 10 with an In-place Upgrade Windows 10 Installation Upgrade Tutorials

    Please post the chkdsk /x /f /r results into the forum:

    Read Chkdsk Log in Event Viewer in Windows 10 Windows 10 Performance Maintenance Tutorials


    get-winevent -FilterHashTable @{logname="Application"; id="1001"}| ?{$_.providername –match "wininit"} | fl timecreated, message | out-file Desktop\CHKDSKResults.txt

    CHKDSK: What is it and how do I run it? - Ask Leo!


    Alternatively use 26226 to find chkdsk results in eventvwr and then post into the forum.

    How to find chkdsk results in Windows 10 - Winaero
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  5.    05 Jun 2017 #5
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 11,012
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Ok, so basically you can't boot Windows on that drive.

    Download Macrium Reflect's boot disk, (or Kyhi's boot disk from the top of the Software and Apps section here which has Macrium on it. Macrium provides a useful Fix Boot utility which you can try.

    Note on SFC from outside Windows:
    Executing SFC /SCANNOW From Outside of Windows

    When running sfc /scannow from outside of Windows, like from the Command Prompt available when you boot from your Windows installation disc or flash drive, or from your System Repair Disc or Recovery Drive, you'll have to tell the sfc command exactly where Windows exists, as in this example:



    sfc /scannow /offbootdir=d:\ /offwindir=d:\windows
    The /offbootdir= option specifies the drive letter, while the /offwindir= option specifies the Windows path, again including the drive letter.

    Note: Depending on how your computer is setup, the Command Prompt, when used from outside of Windows, doesn't always assign drive letters in the same way that you see them from inside Windows. In other words, Windows might be at C:\Windows when you're using it, but D:\Windows from the Command Prompt in ASO or SRO.

    In most installations of Windows 10, Windows 8, and Windows 7, C: usually becomes D: and in Windows Vista, C: is usually still C:. To check for sure, look for the drive with the Users folder on it - that will be the drive Windows is installed on, unless you have multiple installations of Windows on multiple drives.
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  6.    05 Jun 2017 #6
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    Posts : 13
    windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Thanks! This looks VERY promising!
    My only thing is I am not SURE about edition. I believe it is PRO, but I cannot confirm it as all of the methods, need THAT version of windows to be booted, not what is in a given partition. Any ideas how to tell what EDITION of Windows is in a directory?
    Thanks!
    Bruce
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  7.    05 Jun 2017 #7
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    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 11,012
    Win 10 Pro (1703)
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  8.    05 Jun 2017 #8
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    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit

    Are you not able to boot to any flash drive either? Not by the computer manufacturers F key nor by changing the bios boot order?
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  9.    05 Jun 2017 #9
    Join Date : Jun 2017
    Posts : 13
    windows 10
    Thread Starter

    Well the sfc /scannow /offbootdir=f:\ /offwindir=f:\windows
    was not successful
    In the process of doing the inplace repair. (One thing I don't see (hopefully I will) is WHERE I can select WHICH drive to install to! I have the "temp" windows and then the one I want to recover...
    Time will tell!


    to zbook: I can boot to a clean disk with windows and I can boot to a USB., F keys seem to do nothing. I can boot to other devices, just not to one I need to:/

    Thanks for all the help so far.

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  10.    05 Jun 2017 #10
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 11,012
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    You can only do an in-place upgrade repair install if you can boot and log in.
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