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  1.    30 May 2017 #1
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    Contacts Folder


    I cant find my contacts folder. Well, that's not exactly true, I do have a folder at "C:\Users\xxx\Contacts", but it's just a regular folder. Seems to have happened around the time I installed the creators update?

    Searching for an answer It looks like I 'm way behind the times since I seem to be the only one still using it, or wanting to.

    I like it because its an easy way for me to have a backup for my phone contacts that I can edit easily and import back to my phone.

    Has this feature been phased out? Whats a good alternative?

    I know about the "People App", but I find it crude and clumsy. I don't want my email always open and accessible from the desktop. I'd rather open it form the browser and let the password manager do the work. Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Help.
    Last edited by kitpzyxmsir; 01 Jun 2017 at 16:35.
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  2.    30 May 2017 #2
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    Caledon, Ontario, Canada
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    Hi kitpzyxmsir

    Could you share what kind of phone you are using and which domain you use for mail, (@outlook.com, @gmail.com, etc ) and if you are using POP, IMAP or EAS?

    This will help if people have some suggestions / alternatives.

    Ken
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  3.    30 May 2017 #3
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    I don't recall any Contacts folder... not saying it didn't exist, but it's probably been a long time. There is now a People app, have you tried using that?
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  4.    31 May 2017 #4
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    Well, there's something I've never used, but does exist still:

    Windows Contacts - Wikipedia
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    I simply typed contacts in Cortana's search field, and clicked on the result.
    However, this would be a completely isolated, manually maintained set of data, whereas the People App is intended to sync with data from multiple accounts and across devices. Thus it is a relic, presumably provided so people can't complain about losing data stored there.

    The contacts feature (folder above) does not appear in the Start Menu by default.
    Windows Contacts - Windows Tutorials
    - used by (the withdrawn) Windows Mail of which a relic still exists in Win 10:
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    Perhaps somewhat confusingly there's this:
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    - which I would guess does not make use of that folder, rather the People app's data.

    I would, however, have concerns about the security (or complete lack of it) of the data in that folder.
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  5.    31 May 2017 #5
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    You can still use the Windows Contacts folder but you'll need to create contacts manually or import contacts from a VCard file, and use a 3rd party email client.

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  6.    31 May 2017 #6
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    Oh, right... THAT contacts folder. Now I remember.

    IIRC this was like an XP-era feature designed to integrate with Outlook Express and the like.

    Yes, I do notice it has a virtual shell folder, with various options. There is likely a way to re-register this shell extension, but a quick google did not turn anything up... Maybe someone else can come up with the dll to register.
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  7.    01 Jun 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
    You can still use the Windows Contacts folder but you'll need to create contacts manually or import contacts from a VCard file, and use a 3rd party email client.

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    Have you installed the Creators update? I ask because the only explanation I have is that my installation of the Creators update eliminated "Contacts"

    That's what my "C:\Users\xxx\Contacts" used to look like, with all the options for import, export, etc.

    Now for me it just looks like a regular empty folder.

    If someone has Creators, can you confirm?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Oh, right... THAT contacts folder. Now I remember.
    IIRC this was like an XP-era feature designed to integrate with Outlook Express and the like.
    Yes, I do notice it has a virtual shell folder, with various options. There is likely a way to re-register this shell extension, but a quick google did not turn anything up... Maybe someone else can come up with the dll to register.
    XP had an address book, basically a file with a .wab extension, so the "Contacts" feature that you see in Edwins post came sometime after.

    I jumped straight from XP to Windows 10, was able to import/convert that backed up .wab file into "Contacts".

    I got the Creators update about a week ago, and a few days later realized the Contacts folder had changed, so it either happened at that point or due to another fairly recent Windows cumulative update.

    That's what I'm trying to confirm. As you discovered, there isn't anything out there addressing this.

    Looks like I'm going to need another option, probably a third party contacts manager, that I can easily sync my phone contacts with via .vcf, in both directions.

    I've checked out a few, maybe someone would like to recommend something?

    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    Well, there's something I've never used, but does exist still:
    Thus it is a relic, presumably provided so people can't complain about losing data stored there.

    Perhaps somewhat confusingly there's this:
    - which I would guess does not make use of that folder, rather the People app's data.
    I would, however, have concerns about the security (or complete lack of it) of the data in that folder.
    Yeh, I suspect the developers had the same opinion of this "relic", and it wasn't secure,

    The Peoples app is completely separate and poorly conceived, IMO, thats why I'm looking for a substitute.

    thanks
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  8.    01 Jun 2017 #8
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    My wife was using Companion Link. It was okay but plenty of sync failures.

    In essence we use "People" on our outlook.com web accounts as the book of record. On our pc we use Outlook 2013. Without the use of a third party we can change contact info on PC, or web or phone and they all sync. I have an iPhone and she has old Android Samsung Galaxy.

    I have one Outlook.com account and I just use it for data, people, tasks, calendar.

    Could I pry a little and ask what is you don't like about the People app?
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  9.    01 Jun 2017 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caledon Ken View Post
    My wife was using Companion Link. It was okay but plenty of sync failures.

    In essence we use "People" on our outlook.com web accounts as the book of record. On our pc we use Outlook 2013. Without the use of a third party we can change contact info on PC, or web or phone and they all sync. I have an iPhone and she has old Android Samsung Galaxy.

    I have one Outlook.com account and I just use it for data, people, tasks, calendar.

    Could I pry a little and ask what is you don't like about the People app?
    It's been a while since I tinkered with it. I just tried it again. From what I remembered, with my over 400 contacts, it was quite a chore scrolling thru that interface. I dont remember having to sync it with an email account before to import contacts, but that's the only way It appears to work now. I tried to hook it up to my gmail, but it wont let me copy/paste my password from my password manager into the field (why do they do that?), and the password is hidden once you type it in (why do they do that??), and with my 20 character password, I guess I made an error that couldn't be seen, so I don't feel like fighting that all day (sheesh!), and once I do manage to set it up, it'll be an automatic login to my email, but I dont want that kind of easy access to my email from the desktop, I prefer to access it from my browser using my password manager.

    I've had a lot of frustration keeping a clean phone contact list. No matter how I try to set it up, it gets mixed up with my gmail contacts, and I end up in a mess of multiple entries for the same contacts which destroys voice calling attempts, and complicates manual selection. I need a contact manager list that will maintain a pristine, single entry list, with only phone numbers.

    That old contact list did that, but it was far from perfect. I could import on my phone just fine, but in the other direction, I could only import one contact at a time from the main file to the computer contact list.

    Well, you asked. I'm out of breath.

    If I'm doing it wrong, please tell me a better way to manage it, I'd appreciate it.
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  10.    02 Jun 2017 #10
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    Can't say you are doing it wrong, we each have our methods that work for us.

    I agree with not having easy access to email from desktop so I login to my machine. If it sleeps it requires password. If I'm in a strange place, Crtl-Alt-Delete, then lock. I'm kind of using the idea that I lock the front door to my house but once I'm in my house I have access to all my stuff.

    Interesting on phone and voice dialing. Each phone must be different. I will give my wife's android a try. At least on my phone I say call John Doe Work or John Doe Mobile and it calls that number.

    By using web address book, gmail in your case, my address list is pushed to phone, tablet and Desktop. No importing required and if I want a special backup I can export a file. A change anywhere and they all sync up. (and they all have passwords)

    Wish I had a contact manager suggestion. Lots of other members, lots of other ideas.

    One thing I found in some cases where you want to paste a password and right clicking doesn't work, CRTL-V sometimes does.

    Ken
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