1.    24 May 2017 #1
    Join Date : May 2017
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10

    Switching Japanese Windows with English menus


    I have just reinstalled my PC with Japanese Windows (it's the only way to enable the full use of a Japanese keyboard - special keys etc.). However, I want my system language to be English (menus etc.). So far I have tried the following:

    Settings:
    Installed English language pack
    Made English default language

    Power menu (not sure of proper name - win_key-x):
    Tried to switch language to English but does not appear in the menu.

    Suggestions greatly appreciated!

    Thanks,

    Mike
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  2.    25 May 2017 #2
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    UK, Midlands
    Posts : 10,930
    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    Here's one guide:
    http://www.thewindowsclub.com/instal...ges-windows-10

    Language - Add, Remove, and Change in Windows 10 Windows 10 General Tips Tutorials
    Change Cortana Language in Windows 10 Windows 10 Apps Features Tutorials

    Try e.g.
    Win key + X, Control Panel
    Language
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    Here I have a US installation, with an English language pack, so the same pattern should apply.
    Then you can see Advanced Settings
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    When you have also downloaded the appropriate speech pack (there's more to do!) check if Cortana is happy. You have to get several things right for that to be so.

    MS hasn't made this simple.
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  3.    25 May 2017 #3
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    A Finnish expat in Germany
    Posts : 12,940
    Windows 10 Pro

    Changing the display language of a user account does not change Windows system language. Some items in Start, device names, notifications, dialog and error messages remain in system (install) language.

    To change system language, you need first install a language pack. In this example I have downloaded and installed Swedish language pack in originally English (EN-GB) Windows 10 PRO version 1703 wanting to change system language to Swedish. Next step is to run Sysprep (Windows System Preparation Tool).

    To do that, first close all open applications. Press WIN + R to open Run dialog, type following command and press Enter or click OK to run it:

    %windir%\system32\Sysprep\Sysprep /oobe /reboot

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    (Notice: above command can also be run from Command Prompt instead of Run.)

    Sysprep will now prepare Windows for OOBE (Windows Welcome):

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    When done Windows will restart and after a minute or two will start OOBE (Windows Welcome) as if this was a new PC started first time. You can now select a new system (install) language, setup listing all installed languages including original install language plus all installed language packs, in my case now original English and Svenska (Swedish). I select Swedish and click Yes (Ja in Swedish):

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    Same screen in English:

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    Setup goes through Windows Welcome, asking your region, keyboard layout and such. You also have to create a user account. Notice that you cannot use any existing user accounts, in screenshot here I have tried to use username Kari but as that account already existed when I run Sysprep, system does not accept it. In my example case now system tells me "Ange ett annat användarnamn" (In English: Use another username):

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    Same screen in English:

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    Instead of using any existing username (including possible existing Microsoft, domain or Azure AD accounts) I will create a temporary local account Dummy and when signed in to desktop, sign out from that account, sign in with my original account (local, Microsoft, domain or Azure AD account) and finally remove the Dummy account.

    That's it. Now the system language has been completely changed. All existing user accounts and installed software remain intact.

    Kari
    Last edited by Kari; 25 May 2017 at 06:57. Reason: Typos, added screenshots
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  4.    25 May 2017 #4
    Join Date : May 2017
    Posts : 3
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter

    I still have to do the Cortana switch over but otherwise it worked - thank you both so much!

    The main problem I had (other than trying to decipher Japanese menus to get to the settings in the first place - a matter of "it's one of the 5 I can't even begin to read so try them all") was that you have to load the language pack from the Advanced Settings panel, not just the normal control panel... why is that?!? I completely misunderstood some of the Japanese and so was struggling to see how to get there and do it.

    Anyway, once I'd got past installing the language pack it was really simple.

    As I said at the start, help greatly appreciated, thank you!

    Mike
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  5.    25 May 2017 #5
    Join Date : Apr 2016
    Posts : 46
    Windows 10 pro 64bit

    Quote Originally Posted by TokyoMike View Post
    I have just reinstalled my PC with Japanese Windows (it's the only way to enable the full use of a Japanese keyboard - special keys etc.). However, I want my system language to be English (menus etc.)
    If by special keys you mean those additional keys on Japanese keyboard near space-bar and in place of "~" key below ESC. That is not true at all you can change keyboard to Japanese layout (and I don't mean just MS IME input on US layout) on English Windows install.
    I have done it many times.
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  6.    25 May 2017 #6
    Join Date : May 2017
    Posts : 3
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    Thread Starter

    Quote Originally Posted by VBJP View Post
    If by special keys you mean those additional keys on Japanese keyboard near space-bar and in place of "~" key below ESC. That is not true at all you can change keyboard to Japanese layout (and I don't mean just MS IME input on US layout) on English Windows install.
    I have done it many times.
    Yes, I do mean those keys. I tried just switching to Japanese keyboard, as you suggested, but those keys didn't work. Also, the selection key is normally the spacebar in Japan but I could only get IME to work with the Tab key (for those who aren't familiar with Japanese typing: you type in Roman characters, then press a selection key and it steps you through a list of options for the word you are typing in Japanese characters). Did you get the special keys to work as they do in native Japanese mode?

    It may well be that I was missing something, although I did try every option I could think of. In any event, as I said, I gave in and now have Japanese Windows running with English menus and everything seems to be working perfectly.
    Thanks,

    Mike
      My ComputerSystem Spec

 


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