Windows 10: Screen position wrong for popups/modals/alerts since latest update

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  1.    12 May 2017 #1

    Screen position wrong for popups/modals/alerts since latest update


    Hi

    I have a really weird (and annoying!) issue that has cropped up since the latest update.

    I'm on the latest Win10, with a 3 screen setup. For some reason the popups/modals/alerts have started showing up on the screen where the actual program is not!

    Here are some example screenshots:

    1) This one I just rebooted the server, so WinSCP is trying to reconnect. You can see the WinSCP program on the right screen. Then the middle screen I get the alert telling me its disconnected and wants to reconnect. This used to show up on the same screen as the program:




    2) This one I just made a dummy document in GIMP, and then went to close it. As expected, it asks if I want to save. The only problem is that the alert shows up on another screen.




    3) This is trying to create a new document in GIMP. Again, the popup shows on the wrong screen. It always used to open on top of the program.


    2017 05 12 at 08 51 11 — imgbb.com (for some reason it won't let me link this image??)

    Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Its so frustrating, as I've had times when I'm trying to close a program down and it looks like its frozen. Turns out an alert came up on another screen, and I just didn't notice!

    Cheers

    Andy
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  2.    31 May 2017 #2

    No one? :/
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  3.    22 Dec 2017 #3

    Seriously, no one else has this issue? Its driving me up the wall!!!
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  4. AndreTen's Avatar
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       22 Dec 2017 #4

    This problem is still there? After main FCU 1709 update?

    Only time I had this problem was with Sticky notes, but MS fixed it in the last month or so. Think it's per application problem. For Gimp see this part of documentation (I found similar for Adobe, Autodesk, etc - usually application, not system problem)

    From Gimp documentation

    5.2.15.1. Options

    Window Manager Hints

    Window type hints for the toolbox and the docks

    The choices you make here determine how the Toolbox, and the docks that hold dialogs, will be treated. If you choose "Normal Window", they will be treated like any other windows. If you choose "Utility Window", they will be raised into visibility whenever you activate an image window, and kept in front of every image window. If you choose "Keep above", they will be kept in front of every other window at all times. Note that changes you make here will not take effect until the next time you start GIMP.

    ...

    Window Positions

    Save window positions on exit

    If this option is checked, the next time you start GIMP, you will see the same set of dialog windows, in the same positions they occupied when you last exited.
    Save Window Positions Now

    This button is only useful if "Save window positions on exit" is unchecked. It allows you to set up your windows they way you like, click the button, and then have them come up in that arrangement each time you start GIMP.
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       22 Dec 2017 #5

    youradds said: View Post
    Seriously, no one else has this issue? Its driving me up the wall!!!
    No one is on here 24/7 waiting for posts. Your post probably got buried, because it was not considered a priority type issue. Those pop-ups are supposed to be able to be moved. Windows will remember the position when you do so, same as you can turn them off.
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  6.    23 Dec 2017 #6

    AndreTen said: View Post
    This problem is still there? After main FCU 1709 update?
    Yup, seems to be. I've got the 1709 update installed. If anything, that broke a load more stuff (messed up Edge/Calc/Mail icons, and a load of other stuff)

    For the GIMP one - thanks, that kinda fixed it. Although, I just don't get why it can't open automatically on the same screen the program is on. Its counter-intuitive, in that you want the alert/save/dialogues to open on the same screen, rather than "saving" a screen for them to open on. I can't seem to find any options in SubLime / WinSCP to do this though (like in GIMP), so I'm assuming there is no "feature" to do it. It never used to have this "functionality" on my 4 screen setup with Win7

    Cheers

    Andy
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  7.    23 Dec 2017 #7

    bro67 said: View Post
    No one is on here 24/7 waiting for posts. Your post probably got buried, because it was not considered a priority type issue.
    I do know that (I run a forum myself).
    bro67 said: View Post
    Those pop-ups are supposed to be able to be moved. Windows will remember the position when you do so, same as you can turn them off
    Thats the problem though - it doesn't. I've moved them hundreds of times to the screen I want (then pressed "save", "Ok" or whatever the popup is for), but they always seems to end back on screen 1 the next time.

    FWIW: With some programs it works fine - and then later in the day it screws up. So its almost like it has the correct behaviour to start with in the day when I first boot up, and then it screws up during the day (I shut my PC down every night)

    Cheers

    Andy
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  8. AndreTen's Avatar
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       23 Dec 2017 #8

    youradds said: View Post
    I do know that (I run a forum myself).


    Thats the problem though - it doesn't. I've moved them hundreds of times to the screen I want (then pressed "save", "Ok" or whatever the popup is for), but they always seems to end back on screen 1 the next time.

    FWIW: With some programs it works fine - and then later in the day it screws up. So its almost like it has the correct behaviour to start with in the day when I first boot up, and then it screws up during the day (I shut my PC down every night)

    Cheers

    Andy
    Glad it worked with Gimp.

    Andy,
    maybe the reason for not gettin any answers is that you are experienced IT user (from your work - far more than me ) and users don't want to give simple explanations..

    General rule for good programed application is that dialog boxes appear on the same screen that app is opened. So if you later move your program on other screen, it will be a mess.

    Start with this: open and move your application to desired screen, then close it. When opened, it should start on desired screen and also all dialogs should start on that screen.
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  9. bro67's Avatar
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       23 Dec 2017 #9

    I am experienced, because I self taught myself for over 38 years now, how to do this stuff, not through any employer. I knew more than the idiot LAN coordinators at my last job, because I am always seeking out answers and information, by searching for it. You just have to make the problem easy not hard. If all else fails, reimage the drive.
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  10.    24 Dec 2017 #10

    bro67 said: View Post
    I am experienced, because I self taught myself for over 38 years now, how to do this stuff, not through any employer. I knew more than the idiot LAN coordinators at my last job, because I am always seeking out answers and information, by searching for it. You just have to make the problem easy not hard.
    Same here I'm a website designer, not IT tech. I try my best to work stuff out, but when I fail I try places like this.


    bro67 said: View Post
    If all else fails, reimage the drive.
    That's what I'm trying to avoid. I have so much software (Java, phone app dev kits) that have taken years to get perfect. The last time I did a rebuild of this machine, it took me almost 3 weeks of tweaking to get it back up with the software I needed. I guess if worst comes to worst, I don't have a choice (as this is doing my head in).

    Cheers

    Andy
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