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  1.    02 May 2017 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by jl2509 View Post
    but it may be an issue here, I have the creators update installed and have identified several issues.
    So have I (15063.250) but this isn't one of the issues. Using End Task in my Task Manager kills my desktop and leaves no trace of Windows Explorer in the Processes tab under Apps, Background processes or Windows processes. Nor does explorer.exe appear anywhere on the Details tab. Where do you see evidence that explorer is still open?
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  2.    02 May 2017 #12
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    the fact that you can browse the taskmanager with the exploere porocess ended?
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  3.    02 May 2017 #13
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    Do you get a black screen when you end explorer?

    If not, it is still running

    run powershell in admin mode and type taskkill /f /im explorer.exe

    you will see the difference
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  4.    02 May 2017 #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by jl2509 View Post
    the fact that you can browse the taskmanager with the exploere porocess ended?
    Not proof. You can still do that in Task Manager after using the powershell command taskkill /f /im explorer.exe
    (I've just tried it)
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  5.    02 May 2017 #15
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    Yes you can still run taskmanager, but explorer, is definately closed (black screen)
    From task manager in windows, it is obviously not closed as you can still browse folders after ending the explorer task
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  6.    02 May 2017 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by jl2509 View Post
    Do you get a black screen when you end explorer?
    If not, it is still running

    run powershell in admin mode and type taskkill /f /im explorer.exe
    you will see the difference
    No, I see no difference. I don't get a black screen. Only the desktop and taskbar go black All open apps are still visible and I can Alt-tab between them.

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  7.    02 May 2017 #17
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    I just replicated my scenario on 3 different systems plus 2 virtual systems, all black screens.
    Also asked a collegue onsite to replicate this on a client system to substantiate my thoughts! Same result...

    I cannot replicate, windows explorer being open after the powershell command as per your last post, so I cannot comment further.
    However, I will communicate with microsoft support for clarrification and revert back.

    I am intersted to know, how your system responds different to the test systems I have running.
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  8.    02 May 2017 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by jl2509 View Post
    I am intersted to know, how your system responds different to the test systems I have running.
    It a puzzle to be sure. My system is Windows 10 Home (x64) version 1703, os build 15063.250. I'm logged in with a local account that's an administrator. I can replicate the same behaviour in Windows 10 Pro (x86) v. 1607, os build 1066 on my second system. Both systems are listed in 'My Computers' (bottom left of this post).

    Group policies, perhaps? You appear to be operating in a commercial environment.
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  9.    02 May 2017 #19
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    apologies, I misread you last post.
    If the taskbar and windows desktop are black, then explorer is killed, any running apps are not open in explorer and cannot be opened as they are dependant on explorer GUI.

    All I am saying here, is that explorer.exe is killed.

    To make this more interesting...
    After several explorer kill processes trying to replicate the issue from powershell, I now also get a black screen when I end the eplorer task from the windows task manager, exactly as it should work?

    Dumbfounded....
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  10.    02 May 2017 #20
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    Commercial and Home User environments
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