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  1.    14 May 2017 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    I know about that, it can be compensated when correctly calibrated.

    The critical information you seem to be missing here is that this is a reproducible software bug, specifically with the current Windows 10 Creator's Update preview build. Nothing is wrong with his monitor or its calibration.

    Not even all of the text that is being output is gonna be blurry. All the software that's rendering with the correct disposition (edit: which is only some of it, which is the problem) is going to turn out fine, including text on web pages in Chrome as far as I've seen. Changing the calibration or ClearType mode isn't going to help, as some of it will always be wrong (and Windows does not have a grayscale AA mode).
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  2.    14 May 2017 #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by widdershins View Post
    The critical information you seem to be missing here is that this is a reproducible software bug, specifically with the current Windows 10 Creator's Update preview build. Nothing is wrong with his monitor or its calibration.

    Not even all of the text that is being output is gonna be blurry. All the software that's rendering with the correct disposition (edit: which is only some of it, which is the problem) is going to turn out fine, including text on web pages in Chrome as far as I've seen. Changing the calibration or ClearType mode isn't going to help, as some of it will always be wrong (and Windows does not have a grayscale AA mode).
    Forget it then! Just forget it!
    You obviouly know more than me.
    I'll stick to my calibrated monitors, using the correct tools, and you can stick to using Windows crappy color management.
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  3.    14 May 2017 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff S View Post
    Forget it then! Just forget it!
    You obviouly know more than me.
    I'll stick to my calibrated monitors, using the correct tools, and you can stick to using Windows crappy color management.
    I mean, sounds good to me. Calibrating monitors very carefully will indeed get you good looking pixels, but they'll be real sharp jaggy pixels all over your text (without ClearType or its ilk). The only way to get properly subpixel-rendered text is to actually render it in subpixel. If you're outputting hard edges, it's not gonna look good.

    I mean, this isn't a color management tool. it's the subpixel font rendering engine (which is screwing up, and making text look worse instead of better half the time).
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  4.    14 May 2017 #24
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    Okay I got a new computer last week. I could not take the slowness of the cruddy all in one. The CyberpowerPC that I ordered from Amazon with a Dell 2k 25" monitor the first screenshot on my old computer looks terrible on this monitor but the second screenshot looks great but terrible on my all on one.

    So it has to do with the monitor. Since the all one one you can't replace the monitor it seems that the new version renders different which makes it look worse. Of course if it was possible to hook up a external monitor I tried it and all I got was no signal even after making sure it was set to second screen only I know the second screenshot I took would look sharp.

    Also forgot to say that the newest version of LIbreOffice must render BGR mode as it looks terrible on any monitor I tried. I have to use a version 5.3.1 or earlier versions or use the latest mature version 5.2.7 which is still updated.

    Also Chrome font rendering looks terrible on any monitor too which is why I primary use Firefox.
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  5.    15 May 2017 #25
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    What are your settings in System\System Properties\ Advanced tab\Visual Effects?
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    When I benchmark, I set these to "Adjust for best performance" and the fonts then look gawd-awful then,
    Also to troubleshoot, you could compare using a high contrast theme(I usually hate those, but I think I finally created a pretty usable one(in the screenshot).
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  6.    01 Jun 2017 #26
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332

    I've had the exact same issue with my new laptop, installed latest version of Windows - aka CU. Text was blurry here and there. The only solution I've found was the following:

    Right click on desktop, select Display Settings, under Scale and layout, I've set 100% (was at 125% by default) to 'Change the size of text, apps and other items'. Hopefully this wont be a long term fix and Windows does something about it.
    If you do not see an immediate effect, log off or restart.
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  7.    01 Jun 2017 #27
    Join Date : Jul 2016
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    Here was my issue with that non-sense issue. File names inside File Explorer got all blurry for no reason. Took forever to figure this one out.

    Go to Device Manager > Display adapters > Right click on your graphics card (mine is NVIDIA GeForce GT 710) > Properties
    Under the Driver tab, press the Roll Back Driver button. Hopefully you can press that button. If not, uninstall the driver and delete all the files for the update (whenever you see that check box) and reinstall that driver.

    If all of that worked, try to search online to ban Windows Update from updating your computer drivers.
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  8.    01 Jun 2017 #28
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, Version 1703, Build 15063.332

    Quote Originally Posted by pepanee View Post
    Here was my issue with that non-sense issue. File names inside File Explorer got all blurry for no reason. Took forever to figure this one out.

    If it gets to uninstalling a display driver, go ahead with this:
    Go to Device Manager > Display adapters > Right click on your graphics card (mine is NVIDIA GeForce GT 710) > Properties
    Under the Driver tab, press the Roll Back Driver button. Hopefully you can press that button. If not, uninstall the driver and delete all the files for the update (whenever you see that check box) and reinstall that driver.

    If all of that worked, try to search online to ban Windows Update from updating your computer drivers.

    If it gets to uninstalling an external GPU driver, go ahead with this Display Driver Uninstaller Download version 17.0.6.5
    Completely removes all traces of the driver, unlike the uninstall option.
    As for stopping Windows from downloading the drivers, you would need to skip on connecting to WiFi during the installation of the OS or set your connection as metered.
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  9.    16 Jun 2017 #29
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    windows 10 1703

    fixed my issue, ymmv


    After the Creators Update (CU) I could barely read any text on my external 2560x1440 monitor (laptop has 1920x1080). I tried 3 different Microsoft support people (one suggested clean boot, no better, other two suggested new drivers, no better). All text was really bad, desktop, apps, browsers, even the icons on the taskbar looked bad, but nothing helped. I asked in MS Windows forum, and received suggestions but no solution. I rolled back CU and everything worked, but then installed it again to try the MS tech ideas.

    Today, with a headache from trying to read my screen I decided to drop the monitor to 1920x1080 to see if that would be better. It looked a little better, but I lost a lot of screen real estate, so I tried each higher resolution in turn. When I get back to 2560x1440 everything is crisp and clear, not fuzzy. I can't believe this, so I reboot, and everything is OK.

    Sounds like a stupid fix I know, but it worked for me...
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  10.    16 Jun 2017 #30
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    Brooklyn, NY
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    I tried a custom resolution on the POS Dell all in one and anything higher than 1920 x 1080 at 60 hz was unsupported and it would not let me change it.
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