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  1.    23 Apr 2017 #81
    Join Date : Nov 2015
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    Win 10 Creators Update

    "Is the operating sytem worth backing up right now if it is so screwed up though?"

    Possibly

    We still need to figure out the health of your drives. What Raid Controller is installed? When you boot is there any option to bring up the controller/array menu to determine the health of the drives?

    Can you bring up a command prompt when the system is booted? If not press and hold the "Shift" key while clicking on restart. This will allow you to boot into a trouble shooting mode where you can bring up a command prompt and run scan disk from there.

    If scandisk finds any bad sectors then you will need to replace the drive(s)
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  2.    23 Apr 2017 #82
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by abenavraham View Post
    "Is the operating sytem worth backing up right now if it is so screwed up though?"

    Possibly

    We still need to figure out the health of your drives. What Raid Controller is installed? When you boot is there any option to bring up the controller/array menu to determine the health of the drives?

    Can you bring up a command prompt when the system is booted? If not press and hold the "Shift" key while clicking on restart. This will allow you to boot into a trouble shooting mode where you can bring up a command prompt and run scan disk from there.

    If scandisk finds any bad sectors then you will need to replace the drive(s)
    Don't mean to sidetrack your questions and your direction. But if the system boots up now and is at least usable enough to try to fix, a complete image is in order. If nothing else, it's a base that can be restored if further "surgery" is attempted, and goes sour. It's a known point. Takes 15 minutes, max 30. One benefit of Macrium is the ability to have multiple images, so it's not either now or later, it can be both, and ongoing. Food for thought.
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  3.    23 Apr 2017 #83
    Join Date : Nov 2015
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    Win 10 Creators Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Squibbler View Post
    I did make an image of the computer after I moved to win 7 years ago when it was running nicely and nice and clean.. not made one since. I should have done so when I moved to win 10, I know ...will certainly look at the software if free, but meanwhile... should I not wait if it is all so screwed up? I don't want to make an image of screwed up files surely?
    If you image the system as it currently is, you will at least have access to all the data on the drive if you you end up wiping and/or replacing bad drive(s). After applying the image to the now wiped or replaced drive(s), at that point I would try doing an in place upgrade with Creators update from and ISO (either booting from a Flash drive or DVD. This might fix the issues, and leave the existing programs in place that you no longer have disk/license info about. Worth a shot. Obviously this may not work...
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  4.    23 Apr 2017 #84
    Join Date : Oct 2013
    NW Florida
    Posts : 9,486
    Windows 10 Enterprise and Pro/Windows 7 Enterprise/Linux Mint

    During boot up, after post and before loading windows holding the shift key +I key will probably bring up the Raid Configuration options. I'm not sure why you would need to though, you know your 2 hard drives are in Raid 0.

    You do not need expensive cloud storage. Just a couple of external hard drives. I image to 3 different external drives. A different one each time. I image about twice a week. That allows me to go back to most any point in time in case of a virus or any other problem. Plus consider, it is not a question of if a hard drive dies, it is a question of when it will die. They all do eventually.
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  5.    23 Apr 2017 #85
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    Win 10 Creators Update

    Quote Originally Posted by essenbe View Post
    During boot up, after post and before loading windows holding the shift key +I key will probably bring up the Raid Configuration options. I'm not sure why you would need to though, you know your 2 hard drives are in Raid 0.
    The RAID controller menu, whether it is from accessing one a boot time, or a utility app once the system is up and running can tell you about the health of the drive(s).
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  6.    23 Apr 2017 #86
    Join Date : May 2016
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    Windows 10 upgraded from win 7 upgraded from vista
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    Ok some good advice here... I am nearly done with basic backups of the files that I feared to lose ... I have a separate brand new external drive that I can try and do an image on... not sure how much space it will need and this drive has previous backups and images on already ...will attempt that tomorrow as getting late here ...however, I wonder if Macrium will struggle to load on my desktop since the other file associations errors were coming up for those other programs? Would loading it onto desktop be the best place or in its own directory?
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  7.    23 Apr 2017 #87
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Squibbler View Post
    Ok some good advice here... I am nearly done with basic backups of the files that I feared to lose ... I have a separate brand new external drive that I can try and do an image on... not sure how much space it will need and this drive has previous backups and images on already ...will attempt that tomorrow as getting late here ...however, I wonder if Macrium will struggle to load on my desktop since the other file associations errors were coming up for those other programs? Would loading it onto desktop be the best place or in its own directory?
    Would it be possible to post a screenshot of your Disk Management display?
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  8.    23 Apr 2017 #88
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    TC, his OS is messed up, and the only way to try a Macrium image would be to boot to a Macrium stick, or Kyhi's media (which has Macrium on it). The ultimate intent is to perform an in-place repair install to get his OS working properly again.

    We were going to boot to Kyhi's media, determine HDD health, perform CHKDSK and then backup.
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  9.    23 Apr 2017 #89
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple boot - Win 10 Pro, Win 10 Pro Insider (2) - (and a sprinkling of VMs)

    Quote Originally Posted by simrick View Post
    TC, his OS is messed up, and the only way to try a Macrium image would be to boot to a Macrium stick, or Kyhi's media (which has Macrium on it). The ultimate intent is to perform an in-place repair install to get his OS working properly again.
    Ah! Forgot about the Kyhi! Perfect!

    That will likely flip-flop his SATA & RAID bios settings again......
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  10.    23 Apr 2017 #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by f14tomcat View Post
    Ah! Forgot about the Kyhi! Perfect!
    We were going to boot to Kyhi's media, determine HDD health, perform CHKDSK and then backup.

    He booted once to that, and this is how his RAID config was changed in the BIOS, although I'm not sure how that could happen....
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