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  1.    17 Apr 2017 #1

    What can I expect in Win 10 ...eg Word?


    Looking at buying a new computer and of course they all come with Win 10 (I'm a Win 7 devotee ... it's stable and reliable). I believe that only the Pro version allows control over MS updates & in the Home version it's automatic with no control. But what about programs like Word and Word Pad ... can I load these onto Win 10? (Have them on a disk).
    Is there any restriction on what I can download & install? (AV programs, P/shop, Who crashed, etc)

    Interested in hearing from anyone who like me was nervous about leaving Win 7 for 10.
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  2.    17 Apr 2017 #2

    Hi there and welcome.

    You can install Office and depending on how old your version of Office is, it should work since it's written by Microsoft (although that's no guarantee).

    Programs like WordPad are included with Windows so you don't need to move those over. There are some that didn't make it to Windows 10 so if you have any you're not sure about just ask.

    There is no restriction on how many programs you can install except of course the physical restriction of your hard drives.

    If you get Windows 10 Pro you can defer Updates for 30 days only.
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  3.    17 Apr 2017 #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by nithig View Post
    Looking at buying a new computer and of course they all come with Win 10 (I'm a Win 7 devotee ... it's stable and reliable). I believe that only the Pro version allows control over MS updates & in the Home version it's automatic with no control. But what about programs like Word and Word Pad ... can I load these onto Win 10? (Have them on a disk).
    Is there any restriction on what I can download & install? (AV programs, P/shop, Who crashed, etc)

    Interested in hearing from anyone who like me was nervous about leaving Win 7 for 10.
    Hi,

    I was not nervous about leaving Windows 7 for 10,
    but I became "nervous" using it (win 10).

    What i would advice you is to find a pc
    with Windows 8.1 or one where 8.1 has
    driver support, if this is not possible
    go with win 10 pro 100%, so that you have a bit
    of control using gpedit and avoid going crazy
    with all the "cbusuasp9a7ty38gq" registry edit
    madness.

    In term of stability, win 10 is not a stable
    OS but a moving target, with lack of stability
    I'm referring to the fact that you cannot
    rely on a workflow because things are
    changed every 6 month but with pro
    you can defer upgrades with new OS features
    to 12 month another good point for pro,
    if I understood well.
    Another problem with 10, there are so many variants in the
    wild that you're never shure about the outcome
    of you actions, divide et impera.

    My experience with win 10 is that
    windows 10 home and pro are the test
    bed to improve the experience of
    the enterprise class OS (win 10 enterprise).
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  4.    17 Apr 2017 #4

    Thanks to you both swarfega and roy111.
    roy, you raise an interesting point for while I know that gpedit stand for group policy editor I really have no idea of what this is or how to use it. Neither have I any clue about that "cbusuasp9a7ty38gq" refers to. In fact I feel that I am being overwhelmed by complexity which is why I liked XP and now 7 Pro as I can control and configure those. Really I just want to enjoy using the pc, running my website and not having to continue to learn about tech stuff for which I have no aptitude. I was tempted by an Easter sale of a HP with a fast processor, 1T storage & a very affordable cost but my feeling after your comments is to wait as long as I can. Preferably until Enterprise is pre-loaded.
    Any ideas about when enterprise will be freely available?
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  5.    17 Apr 2017 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by nithig View Post
    Thanks to you both swarfega and roy111.
    roy, you raise an interesting point for while I know that gpedit stand for group policy editor I really have no idea of what this is or how to use it. Neither have I any clue about that "cbusuasp9a7ty38gq" refers to. In fact I feel that I am being overwhelmed by complexity which is why I liked XP and now 7 Pro as I can control and configure those. Really I just want to enjoy using the pc, running my website and not having to continue to learn about tech stuff for which I have no aptitude. I was tempted by an Easter sale of a HP with a fast processor, 1T storage & a very affordable cost but my feeling after your comments is to wait as long as I can. Preferably until Enterprise is pre-loaded.
    Any ideas about when enterprise will be freely available?
    Well it all boils down of what are your needs,
    Windows 10 Enterprise I don't think it will be
    available for free, but it is intended for "power users"
    so in general for people that like or need (for work) to learn
    the complexity of the OS. If with "running your website"
    you mean browsing the web I think Enterprise edition is
    not for you.

    If you see your PC as a whashing machine that you turn on
    and it got to do it's job that's fine and I understand that
    you have other interests than tinkering with a computer,
    then probably win 10 home is the best option for you
    (on the microsoft ecosystem)

    *as long as you understand that*

    microsoft "will be in charge" of managing your PC
    and most of your PC activities will be logged by microsoft
    on the pourpose of keeping your system up to date and
    gather advertising statistics about your PC habits

    when you understand what this means and it's ok with you then
    win 10 home is possibly your best choice.

    If you value your privacy, you will have to "fight" to
    find alternatives or tinkering with the OS, there are
    alternative OS like i.e. Ubuntu but you will have to
    learn "a bit" of new stuff

    hope this helps with yous decision
    Last edited by roy111; 17 Apr 2017 at 08:07.
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  6.    17 Apr 2017 #6

    thanks again roy111. By running my website I mean maintaining a website I own. Currently it's easy .. I use FileZilla to upload additions, edits etc. Privacy/Security are important to me (eg I use a VPN and WinPatrol to warn me of anything trying to start) . The notion of 'push' that MS is developing is to me ominous; I don't like being monitored at all. So it sounds like the Pro version will give me greater security. I'll keep looking and listening to the advise from folk like yourself.

    ps when I said above I'm feeling overwhelmed by complexity here's an example: have a brand new mobile phone which cost me a serious sum. Can't use it as the nano SIM cards won't sit in the SIM port properly. So far seems outside of my control .. telco won't change its SIM cards and Apple won't admit any problem with the port. So I'm stuck, no phone and debt! I do trust it will be sorted in time but such events make me suspicious of change when so often it seems like change for change sake, or to sell product. The end user seems quite dispensable.
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  7.    17 Apr 2017 #7
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    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    I use Win 10 essentially with traditional 'desktop' programs- I don't use
    - Cortana
    - the Win 10 start menu (for very good reasons)
    - the package of universal apps (Mail, games, Photos, Groove (music) etc etc

    I use the free Classic Shell start menu- which behaves very sensibly in a way familiar to Win 7 users. Hey, I even have a Win 7 Orb.

    I find Win 10 stable- can't recall a crash or BSOD.

    But always act defensively. Use disk imaging. Be prepared.

    Pro doesn't give you greater security unless you count Bitlocker or trusted boot. It does give you a few features.
    Windows 10 Home vs Pro: What Extra Features does Windows 10 Pro have? - PC Advisor
    Windows 10 Home vs Windows 10 Pro: the key differences explained | TechRadar

    It can be useful to have the group policy editor available, as then the corresponding registry keys are also available. Some tutorials here specify they only apply to Pro upwards.

    Pro offers more control of updates, including the ability to defer feature updates. In the Anniversary build (current, being upgraded to the Creator's build) one can defer build upgrades for months. I understand this is much reduced in the Creator's build.

    Some have struggled with unexpected restarts related to updates, a very bad move on MS's part. This can be controlled- group policy settings and a 3rd party tweaker which uses those help- and the latest build offers more control of that. So beware.

    MS has had a habit of bringing out a major build with which some have had various difficulties- and in the Creator's case, all with certain 'under the hood' aspects, and then bring out 1 or two updates in the 2 or 3 months following to fix that.

    Comments about Windows 'spying on you' with Win 10 are somewhat like urban legends. Yes, statistical data is sent back; it's not personal data. Heck, your ISP spies on you all the time, if you look at it like that- so don't use the internet. So does your mobile phone company. Hmm.

    You can disable some of the reporting/monitoring aspects quite readily.

    Some with older PCs have difficulties finding compatible drivers.

    It is true MS is pushing 'standardisation' hard - a common platform across supported devices with much less flexibility in theming and appearance. But there remain ways.
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  8.    17 Apr 2017 #8

    thanks Dalchina, some very helpful comments there. Yes, I do maintain a current image of this system but apparently I can't use that should I update to Win 10. If my reading is right then to transfer from 7 to 10 I'd need a back-up as distinct from an image.
    As you suggest the auto restarts following updates are indeed intrusive. I'm glad I asked the question ... these posts are really helpful.
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  9.    17 Apr 2017 #9
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    Win 10 Pro (1703)

    If you use disk imaging (that's great- almost everyone should) - should things go wrong, you can always restore your image.

    Some people end up with unbootable systems after upgrading- so always take precautions.

    But note you can set Win 10 to notify of updates - I've never had it restart unexpectedly. (See Winaero's free tweaker - very handy with full explanations).

    Do a disk check before you start too -e.g. Hard disk Sentinel (trial).
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  10.    17 Apr 2017 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post

    Comments about Windows 'spying on you' with Win 10 are somewhat like urban legends. Yes, statistical data is sent back; it's not personal data. Heck, your ISP spies on you all the time, if you look at it like that- so don't use the internet. So does your mobile phone company. Hmm.
    I do not think that the ISP can have the
    same level of info win 10 can gather, why
    would you say that?

    If I connect to Google there is
    a green lock icon this means that the
    traffic, key words, search terms are encripted
    and the ISP cannot know what i'm serching for,
    it shure can know that i'm connected to google
    but that's it, windows 10 "knows more", anyway
    folks, seriuosly ... do not mislead people if you can
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