Many Creators Upgrade Problems?

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  1. Posts : 5,817
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 21H2
       #21

    Gregman said:
    My boot time across three W10 instances (2 different computers, 3 different boot hard drives) has increased ridiculously.

    Also seems there is a heck of a lot more disk thrashing than ever starting programs....
    System specs would help give us an idea of what's happening.
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  2. Posts : 4
    Windows 10
       #22

    Sys 1

    Asus mobo
    i7
    16 gig RAM
    boot drive 1 WDC 32M cache
    boot drive 2 (used in an audio environment and not typically networked) Seagate 64M cache


    Sys 2

    Gigabyte mobo
    8 gig RAM
    boot drive WDC 16M cache



    Literally no changes other than installation of Creators Update.


    Thx,


    Greg
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  3. Posts : 5,817
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 21H2
       #23

    Thanks. The specs just tells us what you're running and give an idea as to performance of system. That said, all we have to go by is you saying boot times have increased ridiculously before the update. But slow compared to what? How do you define "ridiculously"? How slow is that?

    Anyway boot times can be affected by a myriad of things so It's hard to say what's causing slower times. Just FYI, I've not noticed any increased times on any of my updated PC's. On the other hand I've not measured them. They just seem the same to me.

    Also bear in mind, you have traditional hard drives that'll boot Windows slower than any SSD drive. Point being when comparing your new boot times to on another make sure you're comparing HDD to HDD, not HDD to SSD!
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  4. Posts : 4
    Windows 10
       #24

    sygnus21 said:
    Thanks. The specs just tells us what you're running and give an idea as to performance of system. That said, all we have to go by is you saying boot times have increased ridiculously before the update. But slow compared to what? How do you define "ridiculously"? How slow is that?

    Anyway boot times can be affected by a myriad of things so It's hard to say what's causing slower times. Just FYI, I've not noticed any increased times on any of my updated PC's. On the other hand I've not measured them. They just seem the same to me.

    Also bear in mind, you have traditional hard drives that'll boot Windows slower than any SSD drive. Point being when comparing your new boot times to on another make sure you're comparing HDD to HDD, not HDD to SSD!
    Thx for your input.


    However please note the ONLY change that has been made (x3) has been the update.

    And "ridiculous" can be quantified by 2-3 times longer each system takes to fully boot and become usable. As in COMPLETELY noticeable and not needing an actual time hack to measure the difference.

    I'm quite aware of SSD vs HDD - however that isn't the issue here at all. I've built studio quality systems for years and fully understand the building, operation, updating and usage of high end systems.

    There is an issue with this update. Plain and simple. And yes, I understand many have had zero problems. However my experience has been completely different.
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  5. Posts : 502
    Win 11 Pro 64 bit
       #25

    DeaconFrost said:
    Three computers done. One as a clean install and two as upgrades. No issues on any of them.
    I just finished upgrading two desktops and a laptop. Not a single issue and all running great. Fast as before.
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  6. Posts : 53
    Windowes 10 Pro 15063.332
       #26

    sygnus21 said:
    You stated this 3 days ago here....



    If you fear the upgrade that much don't install it. No need for insults though.
    if someone wants to come down on microsoft it is their right.
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  7. Posts : 5,817
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 21H2
       #27

    Gregman said:
    I'm quite aware of SSD vs HDD - however that isn't the issue here at all. I've built studio quality systems for years and fully understand the building, operation, updating and usage of high end systems.
    We don't know what your qualifications are and assume nothing. This provides for better help in assuring we aren't talking over people's head who may not be so knowledgeable. Now that you stated your qualifications we can move from there.

    With that I would check task manager to see what's running that maybe shouldn't. Did you disable tasks or remove stuff that would be reset during the upgrade? Perhaps this is a reason for your slowdowns?

    Gregman said:
    There is an issue with this update. Plain and simple. And yes, I understand many have had zero problems. However my experience has been completely different.
    While I'm never one to assume because I have no issues, no one else does; I'm also of the mindset that just because some have issues doesn't mean the entire process is broken. There are simply too many PC configurations for any upgrade to not break something. It happens.

    What you look at though in this case are the numbers.... and the vast majority have not experienced the issue you post. It doesn't mean you don't have issues, but it does lend credence to the notion that the upgrade isn't as problematic as you simply state.

    That said, no doubt you feel there's an issue with your upgrade... the question is what's causing it? At this point I have no idea other that what I said earlier - check to see if any settings you'd previously tweaked, removed, or disabled, got reset as major upgrades such as this do tend to reset stuff.

    Good luck.
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  8. Posts : 7,089
    Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #28

    I'm now seeing even more problems - there is a post here about chkdsk not working Chkdsk not working?

    Why didn't MS software engineering process discover and fix such a basic error?
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  9. Posts : 382
    Windows 10 Home
       #29

    So far, so good Only thing that bothers me is Windows Defender, so I turned it off.
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  10. Posts : 668
    Win 10 pro
       #30

    NavyLCDR said:
    There is something seriously wrong with the computers at my house (about a dozen of them altogether). They all run Creator's Update with no problems at all. What could be wrong here do you think?
    This depends on your expectation as well, I upgraded 3 pc
    with fresh install and then with upgrade assistant and I found
    behaviour that I consider "problems" and you may not...

    Fresh install:
    Programs indexing does not work (on 3 different PC)

    Upgrade with upgrade assistant:

    Before the upgrade:

    cortana off (gpedit allow cortana to disable)

    web search off

    default store app removed ( meteo, news etc...)

    After the upgrade:

    Al apps restored all my settings reset

    Cortana alive and Kiking (gpedit is reverted to allow cortana "yes")

    web search active, despite the fact that it's set to not search
    for web results in gpedit, I'll try to be more clear because of my english
    is not so good:

    gpedit settings (i'm translating so it may not be the exact sentence in
    english version of gpedit, but I think the meaning is what matters)

    search - do not allow web search set to ACTIVE
    search - do not search the web and do not display web results set to ACTIVE

    with this gpedit settings I was getting search result and performing web search
    using the search/cortana function (win key and type...)

    I sure was able to reopen gpedit and reset the three settings,
    reboot and all was back to normal, but i find a bit stresful
    to chek all the settings for any update.

    Maybe you enjoy cortana, web search, and the app i disable
    (and do not get me wrong, I think they are legit services,
    that could be useful, they simply are not useful to me ...)
    so you will not have the problems i'm facing...

    so is something seriously wrong with my computers?
    so is something seriously wrong with your computers?
    so is something wrong with windows?

    It is for posterity to judge:)
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