Windows 10: Suggestions on services to disable?

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  1.    09 Apr 2017 #1

    Suggestions on services to disable?


    I am attempting to air gap a windows 10 pc, all previous attempts have failed miserably at protecting my files. I do not use any remote or virtual services. I have been disabling everything I can think of, but there's still so many things I'm not sure what they are exactly.

    I only need to be able to run Adobe PhotoShop CS6, and access my bit locker drives.

    Below I will include services from process hacker.
    Suggestions on services to disable? Attached Files
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  2. Posts : 2,865
    Windows 10.4 Home 1709 x64
       09 Apr 2017 #2

    Sonya said: View Post
    I have been disabling everything I can think of, but there's still so many things I'm not sure what they are exactly.
    That is the reason, why it is suggested not disable any services, dependencies. But if you insist.

    Black Vipers Windows 10 Service Configurations | Black Viper | www.blackviper.com

    You can check Services section in this batch, it is mostly safe.

    [Batch] Windows Tweaks Light - Pastebin.com
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  3.    09 Apr 2017 #3

    Why not just disconnect from network?
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  4. Posts : 63
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB x64
       09 Apr 2017 #4

    Depends what your goals are for doing this. Some big ones are on the "Black Viper’s Windows 10 Service Configurations" as mentioned above.

    A big one I disable is Windows Search. Some other's are Windows Update, Update Orchestrator Service. (this will break windows from updating)

    If you don't intend to use System Restore then disable Windows Backup and Volume Shadow Copy.
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  5.    09 Apr 2017 #5

    Disabling Windows services is risky with unpredictable results. The problem is that there is no complete list available anywhere that fully describes what each service does. Many do more than documented and unrelated things you would not expect. Incidentally, and contrary to frequent claims, setting a service start to "Manual" is NOT a safe alternative to disabling it. With this setting either an application or the system can start the service if it were needed. But you can't safely assume that this will actually happen.
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  6.    09 Apr 2017 #6

    lx07 said: View Post
    Why not just disconnect from network?
    I have disconnected from the network, but I am still seeing outgoing data in tcpview and process explorer. I have disabled remote access remote desktop and all other unneeded services a million times but they still run in task manager.

    blocked these things in Group Policy as well as in the registry but I still see sessions 2 and 3 while the pc is in use. I also have session "%sfrom%S" in event viewer along with !@#$. These things are not happening during inactive hours and not one person I've asked for help is able to give me an explanation why suddenly while I'm busy designing my heart out there are new sessions started. Or even why these services like Telephony are somehow running in task manager.

    I have ran every scan out there, I have reformatted the hard drive and done a clean install every single time windows pushes out an update for the last 14 months. The only thing that has actually worked to stop "remote access" "remote access connection manager" and telephony from popping up in my task manager; this last install was after purchasing an AMD graphics card and getting rid of my nvidia card.

    Anyway, I just want to be able to create my art, own my OWN intellectual property and not have to worry that some software has turned my pc into a server or virtual machine.
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  7. Posts : 63
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB x64
       09 Apr 2017 #7

    LMiller7 said: View Post
    Disabling Windows services is risky with unpredictable results. The problem is that there is no complete list available anywhere that fully describes what each service does. Many do more than documented and unrelated things you would not expect. Incidentally, and contrary to frequent claims, setting a service start to "Manual" is NOT a safe alternative to disabling it. With this setting either an application or the system can start the service if it were needed. But you can't safely assume that this will actually happen.
    I was expecting this. Haha. You probably don't advise of deleting Cortana, Windows Feedback, or Contact Support either.
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  8. Posts : 63
    Windows 10 Enterprise 2015 LTSB x64
       09 Apr 2017 #8

    Sonya said: View Post
    I have disconnected from the network, but I am still seeing outgoing data in tcpview and process explorer. I have disabled remote access remote desktop and all other unneeded services a million times but they still run in task manager.

    blocked these things in Group Policy as well as in the registry but I still see sessions 2 and 3 while the pc is in use. I also have session "%sfrom%S" in event viewer along with !@#$. These things are not happening during inactive hours and not one person I've asked for help is able to give me an explanation why suddenly while I'm busy designing my heart out there are new sessions started. Or even why these services like Telephony are somehow running in task manager.

    I have ran every scan out there, I have reformatted the hard drive and done a clean install every single time windows pushes out an update for the last 14 months. The only thing that has actually worked to stop "remote access" "remote access connection manager" and telephony from popping up in my task manager; this last install was after purchasing an AMD graphics card and getting rid of my nvidia card.

    Anyway, I just want to be able to create my art, own my OWN intellectual property and not have to worry that some software has turned my pc into a server or virtual machine.
    Spybot Anti-Beacon may interest you. Which you can uninstall after you apply the changes and can also revert back if desired.
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  9.    09 Apr 2017 #9

    anonjwm said: View Post
    Spybot Anti-Beacon may interest you. Which you can uninstall after you apply the changes and can also revert back if desired.
    Ty, I will definitely give it a shot, has to be easier than googling every single service name and finding absolutely nothing useful in my endeavor.
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  10.    09 Apr 2017 #10

    I have disconnected from the network, but I am still seeing outgoing data in tcpview and process explorer.
    That sounds impossible.. and you have a desktop, so presumably no Wifi. Presumably you pulled your ethernet connection from your PC, which should surely be enough.

    Why not keep your project files in an encrypted area? Disconnect while working on them, close access to that area and carry on. The only thing someone could copy usefully then would be any temporary files. So you could run Ccleaner before reconnecting.

    E.g. Truecrypt or its successors.

    Please beware that using Spybot Anti-Beacon and similar can give rise to puzzling
    'Some settings are managed by your organisation' in red in various places in Settings, and some things being disabled.

    That is aimed at supposed MS spying- things reporting to MS. So would not be likely to stop other nefarious activities.
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