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  1.    04 Aug 2017 #51
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    It may be by design, but it wasn't always like that. Non of it was locked out until the CU came down the pipe. I tried to get somebody "from" Microsoft to tell me one way or the other on their private Yammer group but got nothing. I will have a look at that link, thanks.
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  2.    04 Aug 2017 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
    It may be by design, but it wasn't always like that. Non of it was locked out until the CU came down the pipe. I tried to get somebody "from" Microsoft to tell me one way or the other on their private Yammer group but got nothing. I will have a look at that link, thanks.
    Interesting that it seems to be a change in CU.

    There was some stuff around Anniversary Update, for instance this article:
    https://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/28/mi...indows-10-pro/
    The issue being raised at the time was that administrators you could no longer turn some stuff off unless the computer was running Enterprise or Education or Server.

    Not sure if that helps?
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  3.    04 Aug 2017 #53
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    Yeah, it happened after upgrading to the CU. I even did a clean install of the CU just to make sure it wasn't an upgrade glitch, same deal. I'll have a look see at that link to, thanks.
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  4.    04 Aug 2017 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidY View Post
    I think it's by design that some stuff is disabled in Education versions.

    This is an interesting read:
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/edu...-for-education
    As someone else said about another page, the Download PDF option bottom left contains a lot of info.

    But in particular "Microsoft consumer experiences" is disabled in W10 Education, and I think that may be responsible for some of the stuff which you're seeing.

    I've not tried it, but you might be able to simulate the effect in Pro by using Windows Configuration Designer and making a Provisioning Package to switch on 'SetEduPolicies'.
    That is some very interesting info. Will have to site down and take a long look to digest it all though, lol.
    Last edited by alphanumeric; 04 Aug 2017 at 14:16.
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  5.    04 Aug 2017 #55
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    Hey Alpha, missed your replay to me earlier. Been out of town a lot.

    Anyway, I'm not familiar with the Education version or any of its quirks so I can’t speak on it. I've a copy but never installed it.

    Anyway, that sounds odd to me that you must use an Office 365 subscription as a login method for Education. My question is what if you don’t have an O-365 subscription? Are you relegated to the Local Account until you get a subscription??? Sounds odd to me, and this definitely isn’t the case with Pro. And certainly not my experience in any instance using Pro.

    Again, for me, with Windows 10 Pro, I simply do the install and when asked to setup my login credentials, I simply use my MS account and all is good. After I finish setting up 10, then I install Office 365 and activate using my email. That’s it. Ten never asks to use my O-365 subscription as a login credential. In fact 2 of my 4 machines don’t even have O-365 installed. On those 2, I just run Office 2010.
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  6.    04 Aug 2017 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Hey Alpha, missed your replay to me earlier. Been out of town a lot.

    Anyway, I'm not familiar with the Education version or any of its quirks so I can’t speak on it. I've a copy but never installed it.

    Anyway, that sounds odd to me that you must use an Office 365 subscription as a login method for Education. My question is what if you don’t have an O-365 subscription? Are you relegated to the Local Account until you get a subscription??? Sounds odd to me, and this definitely isn’t the case with Pro. And certainly not my experience in any instance using Pro.

    Again, for me, with Windows 10 Pro, I simply do the install and when asked to setup my login credentials, I simply use my MS account and all is good. After I finish setting up 10, then I install Office 365 and activate using my email. That’s it. Ten never asks to use my O-365 subscription as a login credential. In fact 2 of my 4 machines don’t even have O-365 installed. On those 2, I just run Office 2010.
    You can log in with a local account, then switch it to a Microsoft ID. You just can't setup with a Microsoft ID during setup. I forget the exact wording, but its something along the lines of "sign in with your school account". If I enter my Microsoft ID it just rejects it. It wants an Asure AD of Office 365 licence. Something like that.
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  7.    04 Aug 2017 #57
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    Must be an Education thing then cause it's certainly not like that on my 10 Pro versions.
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  8.    04 Aug 2017 #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
    Must be an Education thing then cause it's certainly not like that on my 10 Pro versions.
    Home and Pro don't do it, they are fine with setting up with a Microsoft ID.
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  9.    08 Aug 2017 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
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    I've not tried it, but you might be able to simulate the effect in Pro by using Windows Configuration Designer and making a Provisioning Package to switch on 'SetEduPolicies'.
    I finally had a go at this. This is Windows 10 Pro 1703, and with a Provisioning Package applied which has SetEduPolicies to TRUE, it simulates the screenshots you showed earlier.

    It's also worth noting that the Apps available on the Start menu for a new user (user was created after applying the provisioning package) are restricted - no Candy Crush etc.
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  10.    08 Aug 2017 #60
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    Looks like I won't be installing my Education copy anytime soon unless it's on a machine for testing purpose.

    BTW I can see why the Education version wants a Office account as a login as I'm guessing it assumes you're a student or educator who should have one anyway. I'm a student who got my copy for free but just never installed it since I already had the free Pro versions as well.
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