Creators Update - Discussion of new changes and quirks

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  1. Posts : 564
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
       #61

    Another Annoying issue is the App and Features app in settings, that goes along with Programs and features in control panel. I can go to control panel and uninstall programs and have no issues, but in the new app, it prompts a UAC trying to run Rundll32.exe, and the program fails to uninstall due to it gives an error saying that the program may have already been uninstalled.

    Not cool at all. Always a buggy initial release. Why not just keep things where people know their at, and know it works and just leave it alone. I don't get it.
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  2. Posts : 5,816
    Win 11 Pro (x64) 21H2
       #62

    All these computer experts around here scared of a little ole Windows upgrade
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  3. Posts : 14,577
    Windows 10 IoT
       #63

    lmaneke said:
    Another Annoying issue is the App and Features app in settings, that goes along with Programs and features in control panel. I can go to control panel and uninstall programs and have no issues, but in the new app, it prompts a UAC trying to run Rundll32.exe, and the program fails to uninstall due to it gives an error saying that the program may have already been uninstalled.

    Not cool at all. Always a buggy initial release. Why not just keep things where people know their at, and know it works and just leave it alone. I don't get it.
    No problems here uninstalling from Apps & Features.
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  4. Posts : 2,120
    Win 11 x 64 Home. Pro x 64 on Surface.
       #64

    lmaneke said:
    Another Annoying issue is the App and Features app in settings, that goes along with Programs and features in control panel. I can go to control panel and uninstall programs and have no issues, but in the new app, it prompts a UAC trying to run Rundll32.exe, and the program fails to uninstall due to it gives an error saying that the program may have already been uninstalled.

    Not cool at all. Always a buggy initial release. Why not just keep things where people know their at, and know it works and just leave it alone. I don't get it.
    try iobit uninstaller, its free version removes software and residue. I use it regularly
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  5. Posts : 2,120
    Win 11 x 64 Home. Pro x 64 on Surface.
       #65

    lmaneke said:
    Another Annoying issue is the App and Features app in settings, that goes along with Programs and features in control panel. I can go to control panel and uninstall programs and have no issues, but in the new app, it prompts a UAC trying to run Rundll32.exe, and the program fails to uninstall due to it gives an error saying that the program may have already been uninstalled.

    Not cool at all. Always a buggy initial release. Why not just keep things where people know their at, and know it works and just leave it alone. I don't get it.
    try iobit uninstaller, its free version removes software and residue. I use it regularly. B ut. like alpha says, no probs here removing the apps I dont want. I recently did a virgin install of 10, originally it had gone in over 8 and 8.1. I was told, rightly or wrongly, that that can cause problems with residual files. Maybe thats why creator went in so easily. I did run this morning a driver checker programme, it told me I had a missing driver, it installed it for me. No idea what it was, it might have been an nvidia sound file.
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  6. Posts : 1,524
    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) 16299.15
       #66

    alphanumeric said:
    CU install media no longer looks for Windows 8 OEM embedded keys. Did a clean install on my laptop and got prompted to enter a key. it has a Windows 8.0 Core OEM Embedded key.
    That's interesting.
    I wonder if 1703 may also have killed off the ability to activate a clean installation with a Windows 7/8.x product key on computers which have never had Windows 10 before?
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  7. Posts : 13,580
    Windows10
       #67

    sygnus21 said:
    If you don't want the Creators update, don't get it. I don't think this one is forced on you, but...
    This is incorrect - all upgrades are mandatory for Home/PRO at least. You have to take active steps to prevent it but in the end silly as the build will not get any support after a while creating a security risk.
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  8. Posts : 13,580
    Windows10
       #68

    DavidY said:
    That's interesting.
    I wonder if 1703 may also have killed off the ability to activate a clean installation with a Windows 7/8.x product key on computers which have never had Windows 10 before?
    You can still activate with a 7/8 key. Actually this is a good change as it should mean you no longer get caught in the trap that it clean installs home even if you want to install pro.
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  9. Posts : 1,524
    Windows 10 Pro (32-bit) 16299.15
       #69

    cereberus said:
    You can still activate with a 7/8 key.
    Thanks - hadn't seen that anyone had tried that with the official 1703 ISOs yet (given they've only been released a few days ago).
    cereberus said:
    Actually this is a good change as it should mean you no longer get caught in the trap that it clean installs home even if you want to install pro.
    Yes I'm typing this on a machine which came with Windows 8 Core, but back when there was a glut of Windows 8 Pro upgrades around, I found an office supplies firm which was also selling off Windows 8 Pro Packs at a decent price. So this machine had a legit Windows 8 Pro licence and is now on Windows 10 Pro. And it could do with a clean install sometime soon.
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  10. Posts : 24,615
    10 Home x64 (21H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #70

    cereberus said:
    Originally Posted by sygnus21 If you don't want the Creators update, don't get it. I don't think this one is forced on you, but...
    This is incorrect - all upgrades are mandatory for Home/PRO at least. You have to take active steps to prevent it but in the end silly as the build will not get any support after a while creating a security risk.
    This is one area where changes have been made to what was Pro's vaguely worded 'defer updates' option. Now it explicitly lets you choose between being on Current Branch or Current Branch for Business, plus features updates can be deferred for up to 365 days. Quality updates (cumulative updates and the like) can be deferred for up to 30 days.

    There also a 'Pause updates' switch that temporarily pauses all updates for up to seven days.
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