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  1.    08 Jul 2015 #1
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    Is Windows 10 a perpetual beta?


    Is Windows 10 a perpetual beta?

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    MICROSOFT WILL RELEASE the RTM edition of Windows 10 to its partners later this week, according to a report at The Verge. It's a significant milestone, but it would be wrong to call this the 'finished product' as Windows 10 is designed to be a perpetual beta, constantly being updated and improved. That said, the RTM will be the version that will appear in the PCs you buy in the shop, and will be bettered only by bug fixes that happen between now and 29 July when the rollout proper starts.
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    If you're in the Insider program running the preview version at the time the RTM version is released, you will remain in the Insider program and it will be, as you put it, a perpetual beta. On the other hand, if you upgrade from 7 or 8.1, it will be a full version, no strings attached.

    If windows 10 is perpetual beta for the General Release, would financial transaction be safer or riskier then windows 8.1 or 7? I do some online shopping not much though but I do pay some of my bills online.
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  2.    08 Jul 2015 #2
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    Your financial info will likely be fine. It's stuff like system stability/bugs that those articles refer to.
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  3.    08 Jul 2015 #3
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    Yes and no. If you're a Windows Insider, then yes. If you're just using the released version, then no.

    The general public will only get "release quality" builds from time to time, while Insiders will get regular beta builds every so often. They only get to the general public after they have been vetted by the insiders.
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  4.    09 Jul 2015 #4
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    So, is being an insider on the slow ring like being a general public user on steroids?
    For instance, which of the recent flurry of releases - 10158, 10159, and 10162 - got to be released to the slow trackers, if any?
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  5.    09 Jul 2015 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fafhrd View Post
    So, is being an insider on the slow ring like being a general public user on steroids?
    For instance, which of the recent flurry of releases - 10158, 10159, and 10162 - got to be released to the slow trackers, if any?
    Don't quote me on this, but I believe only build 10162 has made it to the slow ring.

    Well, I know for a fact that build 10162 made it. I'm just not sure about the other builds.
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  6.    09 Jul 2015 #6

    Hi there

    Android which Billions of people use every day on their phones is a "Perpetual Beta" being updated and re-released continuously. People don't have problems running financial transactions on that platform.

    Windows 10 will probably operate like that - new builds appearing rather than "Service packs". The advantage with new builds is that people will be able to start / update from KNOWN sources. The problem with the "Classical" way of discrete updates and service packs is that very machine could have a different set of updates and base system on it.

    An interesting point though --if you opt to continue to receive Insider builds - does that mean so long as you are prepared to regularly update will Windows 10 be FREE to these users.

    The current build expires on Oct 02 2015 so I'd imagine the next set of insider builds will last beyond that. Ms I'm sure wont make you STOP testing before releasing a new build.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  7.    09 Jul 2015 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    Android which Billions of people use every day on their phones is a "Perpetual Beta" being updated and re-released continuously. People don't have problems running financial transactions on that platform.

    Windows 10 will probably operate like that - new builds appearing rather than "Service packs". The advantage with new builds is that people will be able to start / update from KNOWN sources. The problem with the "Classical" way of discrete updates and service packs is that very machine could have a different set of updates and base system on it.

    An interesting point though --if you opt to continue to receive Insider builds - does that mean so long as you are prepared to regularly update will Windows 10 be FREE to these users.

    The current build expires on Oct 02 2015 so I'd imagine the next set of insider builds will last beyond that. Ms I'm sure wont make you STOP testing before releasing a new build.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    There's no guarantee that MS won't suddenly halt the Insider Program. Thus it's better to have a "stable" Windows on another partition, whether it be 7/8/10.
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  8.    09 Jul 2015 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Is Windows 10 a perpetual beta?

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    If windows 10 is perpetual beta for the General Release, would financial transaction be safer or riskier then windows 8.1 or 7? I do some online shopping not much though but I do pay some of my bills online.
    When the GA comes out on the 29th you will be just as safe using it for financial transaction as Win7/WIn8.1.
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  9.    09 Jul 2015 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    When the GA comes out on the 29th you will be just as safe using it for financial transaction as Win7/WIn8.1.
    Or as unsafe, it's mostly up to user how safe he/she/it may be, do an unsafe thing and you'll be just as bad off as on the street, bank or wherever. No OS or anybody can save you from your own stupidity or anybody hell bent to do you harm.
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  10.    09 Jul 2015 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountMike View Post
    Or as unsafe, it's mostly up to user how safe he/she/it may be, do an unsafe thing and you'll be just as bad off as on the street, bank or wherever. No OS or anybody can save you from your own stupidity or anybody hell bent to do you harm.
    SO true.. poor passwords etc will get you every time.
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