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  1.    08 Mar 2017 #1
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    Best Way to Build A New Win10 Machine.


    I have this Gigabyte B75M-D3V board and an i3 cpu.

    And a new Seagate 1T hard drive.

    The drive is totally new. Hasn't been formatted or anything at all.

    What's the best way for me to get from here to a working Win10 system?

    I can't connect it to the internet right now because there's no OS and therefore no web connect.

    But I know that MS do web downloads to facilitate putting up win10 systems.

    I could hard wire it into the router and maybe it'd connect if there's onboard net adapter on these boards, I don't know.

    Just thought I'd ask...

    Currently thinking of using an old thumbdrive I have with a win10 install on it and working on from there...
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  2.    08 Mar 2017 #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by abrogard View Post
    Currently thinking of using an old thumbdrive I have with a win10 install on it and working on from there...
    I would start with that.
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  3.    08 Mar 2017 #3
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    Ta

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  4.    08 Mar 2017 #4
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  5.    09 Mar 2017 #5
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    clean install. yes. but that's what i'm asking. how?

    every little detail could be something i ought to know about. like last time i build a computer i found the hard drive i was using (new one) was not recognisable. I had to take it over to another machine (another win10 as it happens) and get it to be recognised there.

    I forget what it was but it wasn't simply a format. It was something about getting win10 to even see there was a disk there in the first place and then it formatted it and then I was able to put in the new machine and start the process.

    Is that confusing things, what I've said, or you see what i mean?

    And I had an Asrock board I think it was that needed the internet before I could put win7 on it one time, because it had to have the usb ports configured for usb2 - they were usb3 by default and win7 couldn't understand them...

    You get all kinds of funny little hassles some times, don't you?

    So that's why I'm asking this apparently dumb little question.

    Just how? Just what procedure? win10 install disk? or win10 install USB? hardwire internet connection first? install something else first (xp) and then connect and then download a win10 install ?

    Be much easier if they had an OS on the disks when you buy them, wouldn't it?

    Or if there was a well known easy small OS we could use - put it on the disk while in some other machine.

    I thought BART might do that one time but it didn't work when I tried it.

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  6.    09 Mar 2017 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by abrogard View Post
    clean install. yes. but that's what i'm asking. how?
    Did you notice that this was a link that you can click on?:

    Clean Install Windows 10 <<<click on link

    Boot the computer from your Windows 10 USB flash drive and it's pretty easy after that.
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  7.    09 Mar 2017 #7
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    I didn't.

    poor, poor pitiful me.

    I'll click on it and go for it.

    Thanks.



    p.s. you are/were a lieutenant commander in the Navy?
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  8.    09 Mar 2017 #8
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    You should get a ssd for Windows and use the hard drive for storage.

    1) You do not have to be connected to the internet, in fact most of the time you can`t even get to the internet without installing the network drivers first.

    2) Most people buy hard drives for storage. Having an OS already on them ??? The price would be outrageous, never happen. PC`s yes, hard drives Natta.


    Use the boot menu to choose the flash drive one time, that`s it. When it reboots the install should continue without any interaction from you

    Any more questions, just ask.
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  9.    09 Mar 2017 #9
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    You should get a ssd for Windows and use the hard drive for storage.
    how big an ssd would you advise?

    Most people buy hard drives for storage. Having an OS already on them ??? The price would be outrageous, never happen. PC`s yes, hard drives Natta.
    I don't see that. There's probably public domain OS's available for free. If not a dollar a drive would be a handsome return on investment wouldn't it? That's the software. Actually putting it on there would be another cost but I can't see that'd be onerous either, just another link in the assembly chain.

    Doesn't matter. The question raises the notion of why not the option? With bootable USB sticks everywhere why not the option to purchase an immediately bootable hard drive?

    I would pay an extra dollar or two - maybe even five - to get something that was immediately bootable and perhaps even came with net connectivity.

    Doesn't have to be much. Doesn't even need a GUI. There's memstick Linux type OS's available right now.

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  10.    09 Mar 2017 #10
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    I would pay an extra dollar or two - maybe even five - to get something that was immediately bootable and perhaps even came with net connectivity.
    Unfortunately, Hardware manufacturers and Microsoft are not the same company like Apple is. So, when Windows installs on a computer, it takes a snapshot of the hardware, motherboard and chipset and loads drivers specific to that hardware. If you were to remove the drive and place it into a different computer with different hardware, when the computer would try and boot, it would look for the older hardware and not find it and it would BSOD or not boot.
    So, Windows cannot be preinstalled on a Hard Drive when you buy it.
    There's probably public domain OS's available for free
    Yes, there are many versions of Linux you can get for free if you don't want to pay for Windows, but some hardware (ie) printers, scanners, etc do not work with Linux, Though most do, plus if you have only used Windows, there is a learning curve.
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