Windows 10: Windows 10 new Reset feature ?

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  1. Posts : 14,991
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393, Windows 10 Insider Fast Ring, Windows 8.1 Update, Ubuntu
       08 Jul 2015 #21

    TechnoMage said: View Post
    I'm lost! What's the big deal about a Factory Reset?
    To get back to a Factory install, you're loosing every program you ever installed on your PC,
    then you're loosing all of the data files you've collected since the PC was originally installed.
    Plus, you get back all of the CRAP software that was installed at the factory.

    I'd prefer a root canal to a Factory Reset!!!

    My own alternative, is to take the new PC, tweak it and tune it for maximum efficiency, then DE-Install all the Crapware that came with the factory install, then install all my own favorite programs that I use daily, re-install all my data files and finally when it's exactly the way I want it, I do a Ghost Backup of the C: drive to either a secondary hard drive or an external USB hard drive. (your Backup/Restore program MUST NOT be on your C: drive, in case that drive crashes)

    Then if anything goes haywire, I can boot up with my Ghost boot disk (CD, or flash drive), run a Ghost Restore and I'm right back to where I was when I did the last Ghost backup.

    To try to stay up to date, I make a new Ghost Backup once a week and a full Data Backup to an external FD or HD whenever I add new files to my data folders. (that could be Daily, using a DOS Batch File, with XCOPY)

    Just last week, I had to do a Ghost Restore, to get rid of some nasties that were messing up Windows.
    All I lost in the process was a few emails that I had not saved. No big deal.

    So can we please, do away with this Factory Reset garbage?

    On Windows 10 the factory reset is suppose to nuke the Foistware. It's more a Windows reset.
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  2. Posts : 1,841
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       08 Jul 2015 #22

    I have found several changes in the new reset feature and how windows 10 installs compared to prior versions..

    Creating a Windows 10 Recovery Drive is a Window's Only recovery method..
    On an MBR disk the recovery drive creates 3 partitions - System, OS and WinRE Tools (MBR Disk has 4 Partition Limit)
    Also the WinRE partition is now the last partition, compared to being the first partition, in prior versions..
    And resetconfig allocated all the disk space to the windows recovery..

    Creating a recovery drive also creates a reconstruct.wim ( in prior versions a factory install.wim was required) you will now notice the rename from Install.wim to reconstruct.wim..

    Here is another fun fact - I installed windows 10 on a MBR disk with 4 partitions - Vista - windows 7 - windows 8.1 and windows 10
    Windows 10 placed the WinRE Recovery folder on the first partition (which is my vista OS and also the Boot Partition) along with a winre partition marker (tag)

    So - if you decide to do a reset using the recovery drive created by windows 10 - expect everything on your hard drive to be wiped out.. Unless you edit the resetconfig and diskpart files..

    And a little side note - since I find it faster to prep an install.wim and use recovery to apply the images to the partitions, rather then running through Setup

    I would guess one could create a custom reconstruct.wim - instead..

    I will post more of my findings after I look deeper into the reset.. The user profile is said to be carried over and I believe the system drivers - any installed programs are said not to be - this is just early testing for me..

    The reconstruct.wim created was only 2.22GB when the original install.wim was 2.49GB

    After mounting the reconstruct.wim - it does not follow the same layout or folder tree that an install.wim does..

    You can add Windows desktop applications and other data to the device.
    After doing this, you use the ScanState tool (user state migration tool) to capture the changes into a provisioning package so they can be used by the recovery tools.
    Last edited by Kyhi; 08 Jul 2015 at 11:46.
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  3. Posts : 1,841
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       08 Jul 2015 #23

    just downloaded windows 10 RC ADK again

    and when running scanstate to get the .ppkg of custonizations

    get error message
    SCANSTATE.EXE Version 10.0.10075.0
    Only Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 are supported as sources.
    Unsupported OS Version: 10.0.10162
    Failed
    Compliance check failure; please check the logs for details
    So much for testing recovery and customizations - for now anyway, until the USMT is updated
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  4.    08 Jul 2015 #24

    Yes I think Scanstate is the key. There's a SET command you can use to get further, but it still crashes in 10075. I'm also awaiting the next ADK..
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  5.    08 Jul 2015 #25

    just downloaded windows 10 RC ADK again

    and when running scanstate to get the .ppkg of custonizations

    get error message

    SCANSTATE.EXE Version 10.0.10075.0
    Only Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 are supported as sources.
    Unsupported OS Version: 10.0.10162
    Failed
    Compliance check failure; please check the logs for details


    So much for testing recovery and customizations - for now anyway, until the USMT is updated

    Hi


    MSDN page suggests that



    1. Type the following command as a workaround to bypass an issue with version checking on Windows 10 Insider Preview.


      set MIG_USMT_BYPASS_OS_VERSION=TRUE




    Source : Deploy push-button reset features using ScanState (Windows Drivers)
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  6. Posts : 165
    Windows 8.1.1 64-bit
       09 Jul 2015 #26

    Boozad said: View Post
    It will save a lot of users who are nowhere near as tech savvy as most of the regular users here and on the sister forums and have never heard of Macrium or Ghost.
    My brother, who is not particularly tech-savvy, bought a new Vista-equipped Toshiba Satellite laptop several years ago, and one of the first things I showed him was how to do a system image.

    Two machines later, and via Win 7, 8, and now 8.1 and I don't think he's ever taken a single one...

    I take one at least monthly - more frequently if I make a lot of changes.


    Wenda.
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  7.    09 Jul 2015 #27

    Me said: View Post
    There's a SET command you can use to get further..
    Anshad Edavana said: View Post
    MSDN page suggests that
    Type the following command as a workaround to bypass an issue with version checking on Windows 10 Insider Preview.

    set MIG_USMT_BYPASS_OS_VERSION=TRUE
    Source : Deploy push-button reset features using ScanState (Windows Drivers)
    Yes that's the SET command I was thinking of (I was away from a computer when I posted the above and couldn't easily look it up).

    However my experience in ADK10075 was that ScanState gets a little further but crashes with a different error.
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  8. Posts : 1,841
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       09 Jul 2015 #28

    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] SCANSTATE.EXE Version 10.0.10075.0[gle=0x000000b7]
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] USMT Started at 2015/07/09:06:27:28.073
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Command line: E:\USMT\scanstate.exe /apps /ppkg C:\Recovery\Customizations\ /o /c /v:13 /l:C:\ScanState.log
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Version check bypassed because MIG_USMT_BYPASS_OS_VERSION is set
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Version check bypassed because MIG_USMT_BYPASS_OS_VERSION is set
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Status [0x000000] Activity: 'MIGACTIVITY_COMMAND_LINE_PROCESSING'
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Store root: C:\Recovery\Customizations\
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Store path: C:\Recovery\Customizations\
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Store file: C:\Recovery\Customizations\
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] ICB Telemetry: This is an ICB extraction scenario, and SendTelemetry is enabled.
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Creating/Opening provisioning package C:\Recovery\Customizations\
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Creating provisioning package C:\Recovery\Customizations\
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Error [0x000000] Error creating the provisioning package. Error: 0x80070057
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Error [0x000000] Error while creating provisioning package store: Win32Exception: Error creating the provisioning package.: The parameter is incorrect. [0x80070057] long __thiscall Mig::CICBStore::Initialize(int,class UnBCL::String *,class UnBCL::String *,class UnBCL::String *)
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Failed.
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] A Windows Win32 API error occurred
    Windows error 87 description: The parameter is incorrect.
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Windows Error 87 description: The parameter is incorrect.
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] USMT Completed at 2015/07/09:06:27:28.245
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Entering MigShutdown method
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] Leaving MigShutdown method
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] ----------------------------------- USMT ERROR SUMMARY -----------------------------------
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] * USMT error code 71:
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] | A Windows Win32 API error occurred
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] | Windows error 87 description: The parameter is incorrect.
    2015-07-09 06:27:28, Info [0x000000] +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    new error message
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  9.    09 Jul 2015 #29

    Kyhi said: View Post
    new error message
    I don't have it in front of me to check, but that looks a lot like the error I was getting.

    I still think it needs a new ADK - I guess/hope it will appear with the RTM.
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  10. Posts : 1,841
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       09 Jul 2015 #30

    I figured the RC in the ADK was Release Candidate

    I don't think so, now
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