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  1.    11 Jul 2015 #171
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    Windows 7 Ultimate 64

    Interesting. Well, I'd rather the Desktop label act as a button that extends that same list. It bigger and easier to click on. Then I'd like to have the arrows removed, because they'd be unnecessary.
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  2.    11 Jul 2015 #172
    Join Date : May 2015
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    windows 7

    u dont need desktop shortcuts just click all programs and launch them from there.
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  3.    12 Jul 2015 #173
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,800
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240

    For some of us, All Programs can be a huge list of rarely used utilities and applications, which takes time and effort to scroll up and down to find what is wanted. Sometimes it is not a program, it may be a document stored in a program's folder. Much better to organize your desktop into the ones you use most often , and to use folders to group together items with similar function or other reason to group together. Then hide your desktop icons to get rid of the clutter. Then it takes a single click on the desktop toolbar button, and then move of the cursor to locate the item you want, which can be a program or document, or other file and another click to open it, and you're done.

    Think of the >> symbol as being equivalent to fast forward on a video control, if it helps.
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  4.    12 Jul 2015 #174
    Join Date : Oct 2014
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    win 10 Insider

    Thanks for that interesting perspective. I must admit I didn't know you could hide all desktop icons!
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  5.    12 Jul 2015 #175
    Join Date : Jul 2014
    Serbia
    Posts : 10,194
    W10 Insider + Linux

    Large number of installed programs made me a lot of problems in older windows particularly in W7. For a while I was making custom folders according to thematic but that was a huge bother because of many programs being replaced all the time. W8.1 also took some time to set Metro up but in W10 even All programs has better arrangement by alphabet but also by programs being also grouped within their own groups. That makes it more usable although for now I don't have more than 50.
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  6.    12 Jul 2015 #176
    Join Date : Oct 2014
    Posts : 83
    Win10

    The alphabet letters take up too much space for me. Here's how Start Menu X looks after hitting the Start button with programs already to click on.

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  7.    12 Jul 2015 #177
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
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    Dual boot Windows 10 Pro x 64 CU build 15063 & Insider Build 16273

    Quote Originally Posted by kenC View Post
    The alphabet letters take up too much space for me. Here's how Start Menu X looks after hitting the Start button with programs already to click on.

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    I know it's to each there own and I really do try to see the logic in the old cascading menus, but I just don't get it. To me it's liken moving into a house and using half the rooms only to cramp furniture in the other half moving some to the side to get to a piece to use. This is proportionate to the screen you show. What about the rest of your screen? Do you just like looking at it? Like the other empty rooms of the house?

    What's with "The alphabet letters take up too much space for me."? Don't get that at all really.

    It's no secret that I like 8.1 with the Start screen. In arranging 10 to suite my needs I'm attempting to use the "whole house of rooms". I have mine set at full menu mode. Here's a screenshot of my Start menu similar to the Start screen with the All apps collapsed to only the letters next to the task bar. I also through up the Power User menu to boot using WinKey/X combo. If it's not on this screen then I don't really use it that much or need it at all.

    Also, with the transparent Start menu I see my desktop Bing pic of the day background and rearrange personal, informational live tiles at will. I mean what's wrong with obtaining personal data at a glance? A cascading menu hardly gets me anything close.

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  8.    12 Jul 2015 #178

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    There are some very good Linux distros that are very similar to Windows. For example: Ubuntu . the only issue is making sure what you need to run can be run in Linux. But I have used it and it is very good..
    I recently loaded Linux Mint 17.2 and must say it is quite good.

    Zorin OS is also nice for users new to Linux.

    Regards,
    GEWB
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  9.    12 Jul 2015 #179

    Quote Originally Posted by HippsieGypsie View Post
    I know it's to each there own and I really do try to see the logic in the old cascading menus, but I just don't get it. To me it's liken moving into a house and using half the rooms only to cramp furniture in the other half moving some to the side to get to a piece to use. This is proportionate to the screen you show. What about the rest of your screen? Do you just like looking at it? Like the other empty rooms of the house?

    What's with "The alphabet letters take up too much space for me."? Don't get that at all really.

    It's no secret that I like 8.1 with the Start screen. In arranging 10 to suite my needs I'm attempting to use the "whole house of rooms". I have mine set at full menu mode. Here's a screenshot of my Start menu similar to the Start screen with the All apps collapsed to only the letters next to the task bar. I also through up the Power User menu to boot using WinKey/X combo. If it's not on this screen then I don't really use it that much or need it at all.

    Also, with the transparent Start menu I see my desktop Bing pic of the day background and rearrange personal, informational live tiles at will. I mean what's wrong with obtaining personal data at a glance? A cascading menu hardly gets me anything close.

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    Yeah, looks like extra steps to get to a program/app with the pre-8 start menu. I like just clicking my programmed start menu button on my Logitech Master mouse and clicking the on the app. Why hunt for the corner Windows logo, click programs, click on another folder, to click again on another program?
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  10.    12 Jul 2015 #180
    Join Date : Nov 2013
    Chicagoland
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    Dual boot Windows 10 Pro x 64 CU build 15063 & Insider Build 16273

    Quote Originally Posted by EMINENT View Post
    Yeah, looks like extra steps to get to a program/app with the pre-8 start menu. I like just clicking my programmed start menu button on my Logitech Master mouse and clicking the on the app. Why hunt for the corner Windows logo, click programs, click on another folder, to click again on another program?
    Yes, great with a mouse or touch, but the only complaint I have with the new Start menu is lack of, or rather poor keyboard navigation. In 8.1 (if not returned to Start screen) WinKey then arrow keys, Page up/down keys, or Home/End keys for quick navigation. In 10 > WinKey > Then Tab 3 times to reach the tile section, then only the arrow keys work. It's much slower that the Start screen. I shall try in tablet mode.
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