Windows 10: Win 10: not all programs are alphabetically listed

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  1.    12 Jan 2017 #11

    Nigel,
    Thanks! Your suggestion worked just fine.
    I only wish Windows 10 had an option to put all of my 'exe' files in the alphabetic listing instead of me having to create shortcuts and move them all individually. I wonder why some are already there and some not?
    Anyhow, thanks again for taking the time to your share your thoughts.
    Dan
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  2.    12 Jan 2017 #12

    Bree,
    Thanks for the clarification but I'm certain with other software I've installed there wasn't an installation option (like you show with VLC) and yet the shortcut somehow magically found its way to the alphabetical listing.
    Dan
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  3. Posts : 2,861
    10 Home x64 (1703) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       12 Jan 2017 #13

    bromberg said: View Post
    ... I'm certain with other software I've installed there wasn't an installation option (like you show with VLC) and yet the shortcut somehow magically found its way to the alphabetical listing.
    Yes, you're right. Many installs don't give you a choice, they just create their Start menu shortcuts regardless of your wishes. VLC is in the minority by giving you the option NOT to add it to the Start menu (though why you'd want to do that is beyond me).
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 - XP/Vista/Win7/Win8.1 in VM for testing
       12 Jan 2017 #14

    The dual folder system containing shortcuts has been the same one in use since XP, (IIRC), I always preferred the drag and drop system that was available with older operating systems which are no longer available - It used to be a lot simpler I agree

    The reason for an icon not being created correctly could be due to program installers that were designed for XP or Win7 etc or it could be selections made whilst installing, (as previously suggested).

    I have heard rumours that an overhaul of the start menu is in the offing - due for release in part with the upcoming "Creative" Version, some of the things mentioned included an option to hide the full list and the addition of Smart folders which may be return to some of the control we've lost.

    For ease of use when adding shortcuts I open two windows - the left to the Programs folder, (containing the shortcuts), and the right to the Program Files and/or Program Files (x86) folders.
    Right clicking and dragging on an EXE file from right to left gives an option to create shortcut when released over the Programs folder.

    There are a few special mouse functions which are not, for some reason, advertised by anyone which can make things a little easier 10 Useful Computer Mouse Tricks For Windows 10 / 8 / 7
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  5.    12 Jan 2017 #15

    Bree said: View Post
    Yes, you're right. Many installs don't give you a choice, they just create their Start menu shortcuts regardless of your wishes. VLC is in the minority by giving you the option NOT to add it to the Start menu (though why you'd want to do that is beyond me).
    Bree,
    I have always chosen not to add to the Start menu do that because I thought it meant that Windows would attempt to start the program I was installing. To conserve resources I was very selective on what I would allow to start upon bootup. After reading your reply I'm wondering if I misinterpreted that. So let me ask you: what is the benefit of adding a program to the Start menu - only so it appears in the alphabetical listing?
    Dan
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    10 Home x64 (1703) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       12 Jan 2017 #16

    bromberg said: View Post
    I have always chosen not to add to the Start menu do that because I thought it meant that Windows would attempt to start the program I was installing. ...what is the benefit of adding a program to the Start menu - only so it appears in the alphabetical listing?
    Yes, that's exactly what it means. 'Add to Start menu' only puts the shortcuts on the All Apps list. If the app's Setup has an option to run at start that would be listed separately.
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  7.    12 Jan 2017 #17

    bromberg said: "I have always chosen not to add to the Start menu do that because I thought it meant that Windows would attempt to start the program I was installing."
    You enable or disable the startup processes in Task Manager/More details/Startup tab. Being listed in Start Menu has nothing to do whatsoever with starting a program and using resources any more than a short cut on the desktop opens a file or program.

    ...what is the benefit of adding a program to the Start menu - only so it appears in the alphabetical listing?
    So you can easily find the shortcut and tidy up the number of Quick Start icons pinned to the taskbar area, especially if you don't use them frequently. Otherwise, you'd have to use Search or navigate through C:Program Files or Prog Files (x86)
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    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       12 Jan 2017 #18

    Drag and Drop


    Barman58 said: View Post
    For ease of use when adding shortcuts I open two windows - the left to the Programs folder, (containing the shortcuts), and the right to the Program Files and/or Program Files (x86) folders.
    Right clicking and dragging on an EXE file from right to left gives an option to create shortcut when released over the Programs folder.
    When using "Drag and Drop":
    • "Alt + left mouse button" to create a Link/Shortcut
    • "Ctrl + left mouse button" to Copy the file
    • "Shift + left mouse button" to Move the file
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