Windows 10 permissions is doing my head in

PJL

I've tried doing as you suggest above but initially no it wouldn't save to the folder. However, when I tried it again later it did but this morning no. Is it any wonder permissions are doing my head in??? I've also been doing some more poking around on the internet and have found out that permissions are held in the MFT and I've been wondering whether it would be in order to copy all the data on my SSD to another drive (already done actually) and then do either a full format or possibly a secure erase. I could then set the permissions and copy it all back again. In this way the MFT as it is at present should be completely eliminated and I can start over again. The only thing that makes me hesitate is that I have a dual boot system and I just wonder how it would affect Windows 7. I'd very much appreciate any thoughts you may have on this. Is this a wise move or should I be very wary of doing this?

Tracey

PJL

I think I may be a little further forward on this now but just how far I'm not really sure. Yes I did add Take Ownership to my context menu but when I checked to see who the owner was I found it had not added 'Administrators' but what appeared to be a standard account (yes, I'm the only user of this PC but I've set myself up to be an Administrator). As a result I've got a mixture of 'Administrators' and seemingly standard accounts in many folders. How do I reset them so that they are all 'Administrators' owners? I've had a level of success using Brink's tutorial and diving into the guts of the system but whether this is the only way of doing it or even the best way I have no idea. And is there any way of using a .reg key to take ownership which makes the owner 'Administrators'. Further to this, it would appear that if 'Administrators' is already the owner you cannot do anything about it without using Brink's tutorial -- at least that is how it seems to me at present. Apart from this I believe I really want 'Administrators' as I'm still having problems saving from apps into some folders that should be open to me.

I apologise if I'm being a bit dense over this but the concept of permissions really is something I'm struggling with although I suppose there must be a good reason. What that may be has me beat at the moment although I suppose security must come into it somewhere.

Anyway, any and all help really is most appreciated, thanks.

Tracey

lehnerus2000 said:

MS should not place the user in the Administrators Group if they don't have "complete and unrestricted access".
They should have used the Power Users Group.

Interesting proposition, got me thinking. Microsoft should have leveraged the use of groups more: made Administrators more powerful—trust users with it—and make Power Users the highest-in-power configureable group through the GUI. Adding oneself to Administrators is to be done through a command, and there’s a natural consent in that. A once-only occasion UAC.

TraceyW said:

[...] But no, windows decided I don't have permission to save to that location. Instead it asked me if I wanted to place it in my Documents folder. I said yes. However, yet again it told me I do not have permission and asked me again if I wanted to place it in my Documents folder -- and yes I was was caught in a loop.

Tracey, hello there. If you can assert the outermost branch of the file system you’re experiencing permission problems on, I might be able to serve up a script that will repair those permissions for you.

Before that though, many people who’ve jumped to Windows 10 from a Windows 7 machine are familiar with permission problems like this. Seeing as I haven’t experienced this, I’d appreciate it if I could grab a sample of the permissions from at least one of your problem folders to hopefully gain a little understanding as to what’s gone wrong with the upgrade process.

If you’re willing to help me on this, would you be able to run the below command in a PowerShell session for the outermost folder you’re experiencing problems with, and copy the output text here.

Code:

(Get-Acl 'C:\path\to\folder').Sddl

And also one subdirectory would be great.

Code:

(Get-Acl 'C:\path\to\folder\subfolder').Sddl

Hi Pyprohly

Just at the moment I'm in no position at all to help anyone. It looks like I've got a catastrophic crash on my hands. Everything was going great for the first time in days and I decided to install another 1TB HD I have. Big mistake! Since then I've been struggling to get my PC up and running and its looking like the SSD with Win7 and Win10 partitions on it has crashed big time. I've checked out all the connections including those I haven't touched and as far as I can make out everything seems to be fine but the damned thing just will not fire up. Thankfully I only took a backup of both on Saturday so hopefully I'll be able to recover providing the SSD can be recovered, if indeed it is that SSD. At present Chkdsk is testing the SSD and its deleting a whole load of extended attribute sets from the Win10 partition - whatever extended attribute sets are!!!

Anyway, it's likely I shan't be posting to this forum for a while at least until I get my PC sorted out. This post is being prepared on a spare old PC but it is old and slow. Nevertheless it does enable me to get online.

Tracey