Win 10 - Continuing Saga of Win 10 Unreliability

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  1. Posts : 31,651
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #21

    RPLewis said:
    How many people in this forum’s audience “MUST” have IIS, SqlServer, and multiple versions of Visual Studio and .net Frameworks on their daily workstation just to do their job? That is a well above average workstation requirement! In Corp IT, Systems and Pgming areas, a pretty strong, reliable, versatile box is definitely needed.
    That is precisely what the Long Term Service Branch is designed for...

    Microsoft TechNet said:
    Specialized system ... It’s more important that these devices be kept as stable and secure as possible than up to date with user interface changes. The LTSB servicing model prevents Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB devices from receiving the usual feature updates and provides only quality updates to ensure that device security stays up to date.

    ...Microsoft never publishes feature updates through Windows Update on devices that run Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB. Instead, it typically offers new LTSB releases every 2–3 years, and organizations can choose to install them as in-place upgrades or even skip releases over a 10-year life cycle.
    Overview of Windows as a service (Windows 10)
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  2. Posts : 1,366
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #22

    RPLewis said:
    “it is interesting that you can't repair the drive in this same computer.” – Yea! That’s a Real Problem!
    So there's your proof that there is an underlying issue with your system. You can't blame the manufacturer of a house if it was built on a poor foundation.
    RPLewis said:
    And my Biggest Single reason for saying Win 10 ain’t ready for prime time, and Busted!.
    Except it is. Given what you have posted, you should easily be able to grasp this. We have no issues with it running in a very intense, highly-techcentrique environment. If it works for us, it surely isn't "busted".
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  3. Posts : 720
    Win10 x64 Pro - 2 desktops, 2 laptops
       #23

    DeaconFrost said:
    ... We have no issues with it running in a very intense, highly-techcentrique environment. If it works for us, it surely isn't "busted".
    Well, to be fair, just because Win10 is running in most environments doesn't imply there are no problems. There are a number of Win10 users that are experiencing problems. (I'm one of them.) Could be hardware. Could be bad drivers. Could be incompatible 3rd party software. Could be a lot of things. But the problems didn't show up until Win10, or Win10 AU, or some other significant Win10 change.

    Does that mean Win10 is not ready for prime time? No - not if most users in most environments have no problems. It means more diagnosis is needed to uncover the problem. But problems experienced by a small number of people can be really hard to diagnose.

    We with those problems need to be realistic. Telling Microsoft (or members of this forum) that "it's busted" isn't going to solve any problems. But man! it can be tough trying to describe apparently random, intermittent, inconsistent problems in any helpful way ... especially knowing that other people aren't having them. And it's easy to get frustrated knowing that we did not have these problems on Win7 (or Win8, or whatever).
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  4. Posts : 1,366
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #24

    No one is denying that it would be frustrating, or making the claim that it works perfectly on 100% of the systems it is installed on. It just defies logic and common sense to call the product broken or busted, unless pretty much everyone had an issue with it, and those issues are repeatable.
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  5. Posts : 15,037
    Windows 10 IoT
       #25

    It will be interesting to see how that hardware works with a different OS installed. That would be the next logical step if you have convinced yourself that its the operating system that is at fault. And there is nothing wrong with the hardware.
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