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  1.    07 Jan 2017 #1
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    Having slight trouble booting up


    I am running two HD both split in two at 250 gigs each. Started having problems booting just the other day. Keep getting this message: "3rd Slave Hard Disk: S.M.A.R.T. Status Bad,Backup and Replace Press F1 to Resume" Quote marks are mine.
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  2.    07 Jan 2017 #2
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    Hi, so a disk looks as if it's failing. I hope you have full backups - we repeatedly and strongly recommend disk imaging e.g. Macrium Reflect (free) + its boot disk and external storage for images (which also act as full backups). If you have such images, replacing your disk should be relatively trivial.

    If some part of your disk is unreadable, you most likely will not be able to image it now.

    You can confirm by using e.g. Crystal Diskinfo (free) - available as a portable program too. It gives a quick green/orange/red indication and SMART params.
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  3.    07 Jan 2017 #3
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    Ok, Crystaldiskinfo found that C: & E: is okay but D: and F: is not. I do not have anything backed up and nothing to back up to. Why am I having trouble booting as my boot and system disk it C:?
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  4.    08 Jan 2017 #4
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    Hi, I don't know exactly where your message is coming from.
    Receiving S.M.A.R.T. status bad backup and replace error.

    Your computer is trying to tell you 'Watch out, things are getting bad, act now or it will be too late'.

    Put another way, he who does not back up and take precautions lives to regret it.

    The longer you continue to press F1 and ignore the warning, the greater your risk of losing data. Permanently.

    Windows offers File History as one backup technique: 3rd party backup programs abound.
    Don't have any spare disks or network devices to back up to? Back up to the cloud. Onedrive. Google Drive. Any Drive...! (Requires ability to upload data reasonably fast).

    Disk imaging is different:
    Creating disk images lets you restore Windows and all your disks and partitions to a previous working state, quickly and probably without technical help.

    You can recover from:
    - a failed disk drive (restore to a new one)
    - ransomware (which encrypts your disk)
    - user error
    - unrecoverable problems from failed updates to problem programs
    - unbootable PC (hardware faults aside)

    Images also act as a full backup- you can extract files too.

    You can even use images to help you move more easily and quickly to a new PC.
    Can be used with Laplink software to transfer your build automatically to another PC

    Imaging can even help you sleep at night knowing you have a second chance.

    Many here recommend Macrium Reflect (free) as a good robust solution and more reliable than some others. It’s
    - more feature rich
    - more flexible
    - more reliable
    than Windows Backup and Restore system images.

    It's well supported with videos, help and a responsive forum.

    There are other such programs, free/commercial, some with simpler interfaces, but Macrium R is one of the most robust and reliable.

    How long does it take?
    SSD+ USB3 - maybe 15 mins for the first system image, less thereafter
    HDD + USB2 - maybe 40-50 mins
    That’s with little personal data, few programs installed.
    - of course, depends how much you have on C:
    (You can and should image all your partitions and disks)

    Once you've created your first image, keep it updated with e.g. differential imaging- which images just changes from the first image, more quickly, and creates a smaller image file.

    You need a backup medium - say- twice as large as the total amount of data you are imaging to keep a reasonable number of differential images. This will vary dependent on the number of images you keep, so is only a rough practical guide.

    Some comment that system restore isn't always reliable; if it works and solves the problem, great. But sometimes restores won't work or fail. And of course a restore point only covers a limited number of aspects of the system. That’s where disk imaging comes in.
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  5.    08 Jan 2017 #5
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    One disk is only 5GB not much you can put in there, so will try to cloud, have never used cloud before though.
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  6.    08 Jan 2017 #6
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    You'll most likely need to replace your failing disk, so you could get a 1-2Tb or so as a backup disk - for me over USB3, updating my image of Windows takes about 12 mins- I'm using a SSD in my PC. Slower with a hard drive.

    Make sure your Onedrive storage is adequate- I have 125Gb free, but use a 2Tb disk for my images.
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  7.    09 Jan 2017 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalchina View Post
    You'll most likely need to replace your failing disk, so you could get a 1-2Tb or so as a backup disk - for me over USB3, updating my image of Windows takes about 12 mins- I'm using a SSD in my PC. Slower with a hard drive.

    Make sure your Onedrive storage is adequate- I have 125Gb free, but use a 2Tb disk for my images.
    I looked at Onedrive and that is wha it says, I have never used it as far as I know. You say that ss is faster than disk? BTW, don't even know how to use cloud or Onedrive
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  8.    09 Jan 2017 #8
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    Onedrive is provided with Windows as part of Win 10. But the available storage size will not be adequate for a full backup. Just use a search engine and find out more if you want to.

    Easiest for you: buy an external hard disk, say 1-2Tb.
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  9.    10 Jan 2017 #9
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    Wow, I think I have been really stupid with this problem. I thought I had only 2 Slave drives, but I did have a third which was an external backup which has failed and I pulled it the other day, That is when the problem started. Not postive but do think It is fixed now. will let you know. Thanks for everyones help so far.
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  10.    11 Jan 2017 #10
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    Well, guess I got the shaft, drive D: & F: which are both slave drives have just plain disappeared.
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