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  1.    24 Jun 2015 #1
    Join Date : Jun 2015
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    Why is Windows 10 a must have OS?


    I tried to find a real product description on the MS site, but all I found were marketing vagaries and the usual hoopla that something (with no real specifics) is a must have ... it's just marketing gibberish. From what I have gleaned from some forums is that windows 10 is targeted towards laptops and other portable devices ... I have a desktop with no touch-screen. I have also seen a lot of howling and confusion from those that have "upgraded". It sounds to me like another OS that's been released (and God knows why) way to soon. I'm a 'geezer' that was initiated on Fortran punch cards, and so on, and on, and on. I beta tested Windows 3.0a and simulators for MS just for the fun of it, however I am light years past that point, where the thought beta testing yet another MS OS is the last thing I have time for. This is what MS has become infamous for ... using customers as extended Beta Testers, and this ploy seems to be accepted more every year. For MS, updates = patches ... something that should be done by R&D and not us. I've had my fill.

    I hope that someone here can provide me with some specific and substantial improvements that Windows 10 has over Windows 7. Please don't reply with vague one-liner answers, or off topic links.

    - Art
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  2.    25 Jun 2015 #2
    Join Date : Jan 2015
    Posts : 391
    Windows 10

    Honestly? Microsoft is in a sense trying to make an OS to last them the next decade or two. The two main problems with Windows 7 is that it doesn't work well on touchscreens and phones, and it still has a fair amount of backwards compatibility baggage that would bog down lighter systems. Microsoft's end game is an OS that they can basically offer indefinitely instead of having to support so many editions (Microsoft only recently dropped mainstream support for XP). To do that requires three things: Support for different devices, cleaning up the codebase, and better integrating with the internet.

    Support for new devices is the most noticeable change. Smartphones and tablets function significantly different from laptops, but they are still a market that Microsoft wants to have some say in. This means that their OS and the applications it runs have to be flexible enough to scale to different input methods and configurations, even systems that have limited processing power.

    Cleaning up the code is also important. As it stands right now applications have nearly complete access to the OS, which is why they rarely uninstall cleanly and can break if the OS is updated. Plus this open access makes it easier for viruses to hide in obscure corners. With Windows 8 and 10 Microsoft is trying to encourage developers to rewrite their programs to run completely inside containers and access the OS through specific APIs instead of just plopping dlls wherever they like. This means that the system will not be bogged down by crap stuck deep in it by applications, and the OS can actually do a complete reset without harming the application. And the enforcement of APIs means that the applications can run on systems not originally planned for, such as the Hololense.

    And the online accounts is another big piece of the puzzle. The end goal is to have all of the user profile and information abstracted from the hardware it resides on, making switching to a different computer or even a new OS transparent.

    Microsoft is basically planning to rewrite Windows from scratch, but they understand that for users to adopt it it needs to be a transparent and seamless operation. Windows 10 is the key, as it sets the stage for how the applications of the future will run.
    Last edited by FuturDreamz; 25 Jun 2015 at 10:33.
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  3.    25 Jun 2015 #3

    I agree with your sentiments. But:

    The OS has not been released, but is still in the testing phase. Many warning were issued, by MS, regarding problems that would be experienced, by joining the build testing program. That was the whole purpose - to cover a wide audience, with different applications and hardware.
    The OS has moved, more, towards the use of tablets and other portable devices, which, because of their size, do work more efficiently with touchscreen capability.
    I have no touch screen devices, nor, on my (pensioners )budget, ever will. But I did have access to a very expensive stationery touch screen, and still found the mouse and button procedure more convenient and faster - but that is this "geezer"!
    I do not blame MS so hastily, for introducing the public to the Beta testing procedure. That same public have, for some years, hurled criticism and abuse at MS, for not listening to their constant whines. Now, an additional problem has been brought on Microsoft, by allowing this. There have been so many different views, often on the same subject, regarding hoe a single item should be displayed or used, that MS have, as always, needed to take a middle path and satisfy some, but not all.

    As the previous poster says, Windows 10 is providing updates to accommodate new technology and hardware. But if you are happy with Windows 7 (that is not intended rudely), then you are set for a long time yet.

    What's new? Two significant things, for which I have no use, a speech engine, Cortana, and low profile browser, Edge. Apart from that their are probably some of those mysterious "under the hood" things also - an expression I read a lot.
    For me, in a nutshell. I got into, and customised Windows 8.1 to my complete satisfaction. For my, partly limited, use, I have found nothing that will run faster or more efficiently in Windows 10, although equally as well.. But, as it will be a move on to the latest technology, I will be adapting to it.
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  4.    25 Jun 2015 #4
    Join Date : Sep 2014
    Nashville, TN
    Posts : 3,143
    Windows 10 Pro

    Windows 10 is the future of WIndows. If you want to be part of that future, then you should probably upgrade. If not, then don't. It's really that simple.
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  5.    25 Jun 2015 #5
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Posts : 168
    Windows 8.1.1 64-bit

    Trying build 10130 now.

    Still not a lot I like about it, it still looks horrid, and it's still not a patch on 8.1

    And that stupid forced-update crap is still there (anyone found a way to block it??).

    Sad, really...

    Still, I have XP, Vista, 7 and 8.1 so I doubt I'll shed too many tears.


    Wenda.
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  6.    25 Jun 2015 #6
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 10,585
    Windows 10 IoT

    It may be designed with touch screen devices in mind but it still works perfectly fine with a keyboard and mouse. Keyboard and trackball in my case. There are things that I don't like about it, but not having a touch screen doesn't make them any better or any worse. Not for me anyway.
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  7.    25 Jun 2015 #7
    Join Date : Feb 2014
    Posts : 9,464
    Windows 10 Professional

    Why is Windows 10 a must have OS?

    Because MS wishes to ditch all other versions ASAP!

    (and... it grows on ya!)
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  8.    25 Jun 2015 #8
    Join Date : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 24,523
    Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by Article 86 View Post
    I tried to find a real product description on the MS site, but all I found were marketing vagaries and the usual hoopla that something (with no real specifics) is a must have ... it's just marketing gibberish. From what I have gleaned from some forums is that windows 10 is targeted towards laptops and other portable devices ... I have a desktop with no touch-screen. I have also seen a lot of howling and confusion from those that have "upgraded". It sounds to me like another OS that's been released (and God knows why) way to soon. I'm a 'geezer' that was initiated on Fortran punch cards, and so on, and on, and on. I beta tested Windows 3.0a and simulators for MS just for the fun of it, however I am light years past that point, where the thought beta testing yet another MS OS is the last thing I have time for. This is what MS has become infamous for ... using customers as extended Beta Testers, and this ploy seems to be accepted more every year. For MS, updates = patches ... something that should be done by R&D and not us. I've had my fill.

    I hope that someone here can provide me with some specific and substantial improvements that Windows 10 has over Windows 7. Please don't reply with vague one-liner answers, or off topic links.

    - Art
    Art,, it seems that you have made up your mind already and there's nothing that I or anyone else is going to say is going to convince you that WIn10 is a "must have" OS. If you're happy with Win7.. stick with it.

    Jeff
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  9.    25 Jun 2015 #9
    Join Date : Jun 2015
    Posts : 73
    Windows 7 Pro x64, Windows 10 Pro x64

    Quote Originally Posted by Wenda View Post
    And that stupid forced-update crap is still there (anyone found a way to block it??).
    Yes, you can get rid of that annoyance easily through a Group Policy setting. Simply do a Win-R and launch gpedit.msc. Browse to Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Windows Update. Set "Configure Automatic Updates" to "2 - Notify for download and notify for install". That's it.
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  10.    25 Jun 2015 #10
    Join Date : Dec 2013
    Posts : 168
    Windows 8.1.1 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by poset View Post
    Yes, you can get rid of that annoyance easily through a Group Policy setting. Simply do a Win-R and launch gpedit.msc. Browse to Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Windows Update. Set "Configure Automatic Updates" to "2 - Notify for download and notify for install". That's it.
    Thanks muchly, I'll try that.

    Cheers

    Wenda.
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