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  1. Posts : 14,911
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393, Windows 10 Insider Fast Ring, Windows 8.1 Update, Ubuntu
       10 Jul 2015 #101

    Wynona said: View Post
    At least you read the rules.

    Go back to the Windows 10 Forums page and look at Windows 10 News. There you will see all the news about Windows 10 and chances are you'll even see an earlier posting of what you're referring to.

    Posting from sources other than these forums is permitted . . . that's not promoting anything . . . it's passing on information. We can even point folks to the Windows 10 Community forums at Microsoft.

    If you should point us to, ummm, XYZWin.com and say that it's superior to all other sites dedicated to Windows, that would be promoting the site. If you were to say XYZWin.com has a great review of Windows 10 and it can be found here, that's not promoting the site.
    Wynona, "Our Lady of the Ten", as usual, you explain things so well!
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  2. Posts : 114
    win 7 pro x64 (upgrade from XP/Pro OEM)
       10 Jul 2015 #102

    Mainstream Review in 'Trusted Reviews'


    Wynona said: View Post
    At least you read the rules.

    Go back to the Windows 10 Forums page and look at Windows 10 News. There you will see all the news about Windows 10 and chances are you'll even see an earlier posting of what you're referring to.

    Posting from sources other than these forums is permitted . . . that's not promoting anything . . . it's passing on information. We can even point folks to the Windows 10 Community forums at Microsoft.

    If you should point us to, ummm, XYZWin.com and say that it's superior to all other sites dedicated to Windows, that would be promoting the site. If you were to say XYZWin.com has a great review of Windows 10 and it can be found here, that's not promoting the site.
    I thank you.

    I went here and searched and found nothing.

    https://www.tenforums.com/activity.php

    I found this just before my household DVD player quit. I've sense enough to know who is preparing my meals and all, me being one-armed in a sling for 3 more weeks. That took priority. That's solved so here I am.

    I found a review in 'Trusted Reviews,' a UK Time product, you can read it yourself here:

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...0-vs-windows-7

    It is not unflawed. The comments make that clear. I'll leave it to someone with more experienced eyes than mine to confirm that some of the images of Win 7 appear to be Vista instead. That does not change the author's description of what has changed. I'd be obliged if someone would see if he missed some critical improvement(s). The ones he describes do not compel me to rush to evaluate Win 10 for myself. Some cause me to turn away. That said, I do not spurn all new technology. Our primary car is a 2012 Leaf; it shares the drive with a seldom used 2004 Prius.

    My only other device/machine is my son's 'cast off' iPhone5. Some warn in the forum about taking an abundance of caution to 'protect' the integrity of a primary computer. As I see it, I'd have to suspend all other computer use to to participate in the evaluation, probably for most of a week, given my typical learning curve. I need to be convinced of the gains I'll enjoy, that there would be few, if any losses.

    Help me see what I'm missing.

    thanks

    baumgrenze
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  3. Posts : 167
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64
       11 Jul 2015 #103

    After thinking about it, there are many features and improvements in Windows 10 that make it a very attractive OS for me:

    - DirectX 12
    - improved Task Manager
    - improved file copying
    - virtual desktops
    - improved File Explorer
    - universal account integration
    - the free upgrade


    These, and some others, are all the reasons I'm looking forward to Windows 10.


    There are also some things I don't like about it, though:
    - Live Tiles
    - search includes web results
    - flat UI visual design


    Once Windows 10 is officially out, I look forward to using a Vista skin pack with Windows 10, maybe using a start menu modification, and disabling web results from the searchbox.
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  4.    11 Jul 2015 #104

    If it's for computer under "My System Specs" it should work just fine on it. Because of it's age, Dx12 may not bring you any performance gains. Some if not most of the drivers would have to remain under "Legacy" drivers but ones for W8.1 and even for W7/Vista work too. Of great help is that there is a very large base of drivers MS has and by the time 10 gets to be mainstream OS and maybe a bit after most of HW is covered.
    There may be some learning curve to jump from Vista/7 but if you are not planing to go and dig deep in the system it's mostly just to get used to changes. There are some tools to make transition smoother, "God Mode" still works and has more entries than ever (254).
    There are some features that can't be found in Vista/7 that show promise but for some may not provide enough quality programs yet. Store and Apps in it (a lots of freeware) is one of them. Live tiles for some Apps like news, sports, mail, Multimedia etc. are in my opinion quite good replacement for Gadgets in W7. Pure desktop programs including Office work just the same as they ever did and a small minority of them that may give you some troubles are bound to be trouble free soon.
    With half decent internet, updates are going to be easier to implement as they are better automated.
    At the end, you'll have to get used to looks, overall and icons and tiled look for Apps but there already exists a good base of themes and are bound to be many more soon so you can customize the looks as you please. While we are at customizing, some facets of it are a bit limited or missing comparing to W7 but some new ones are introduced, Themes and programs for customizing will be plentiful but you'll have to get used to "new way and looks" and not insist on old ones to be happy.
    I like history, have old, classical furniture and drive old car (much older than yours) but still have no problems to adapt to new Windows looks, those things are not comparable at all.
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  5. Posts : 114
    win 7 pro x64 (upgrade from XP/Pro OEM)
       18 Jul 2015 #105

    Thanks For Your Insights and Your Patience


    Thank you, Count Mike and Delicieuxz!

    I've been remiss in not replying sooner.

    I really appreciate that you considered what I asked and also checked out my system (early 2008 budget stretch) and wrote thoughtful replies.

    I wish I could get as excited as you about Win 10. With hindsight, I wish I'd moved to Win 7 sooner. After several tries I finally installed Win 7 x 64 from an iso file on 5/11/14, not much more than a year ago.

    The more I've thought about it, the more I've explored videos on YouTube, the more I can see that this will not be a bigger deal to accommodate to, different but similar. My wife and I both reserved copies today. Color us more resigned than enthusiastic.

    Has anyone mused on what MS might do if their dreams are met/exceeded and acceptance is over 90%? How much of a hit to their bottom line does patch support to 2020 for Win 7 and 2023 for Win 8? Is there user base population minimum below which the shareholders might demand a "sorry Charlie, but we are pulling the plug earlier than we said?"

    I can't resist sharing that the 2012 Leaf replaced my 30-year-old 1982 Isuzu diesel long-bed P'up. It had but 83,300 miles on it and brought $3,700. eBay suggests that my 1985 PC's Limited "Dell" desktop wouldn't have retained its value in a similar fashion after 30 years.

    Thanks to you both (and countless other volunteer Win 10 pioneers) for your efforts and enthusiasm.

    baumgrenze
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  6. Posts : 25,455
    Dual boot: Windows 10 Home Insider Build 16179 & W8.1 Pro x64 with Media Center
       19 Jul 2015 #106

    First and foremost, welcome to Windows Ten Forums.

    baumgrenze said: View Post
    I found this just before my household DVD player quit. I've sense enough to know who is preparing my meals and all, me being one-armed in a sling for 3 more weeks. That took priority. That's solved so here I am.
    Sorry to read of your dilemma. Sounds like you married the right woman. IMO theyíre hard to find these days. That's not to say there's a lot of good women. There are.

    I found a review in 'Trusted Reviews,' a UK Time product, you can read it yourself here:

    http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinio...0-vs-windows-7

    It is not unflawed. The comments make that clear. I'll leave it to someone with more experienced eyes than mine to confirm that some of the images of Win 7 appear to be Vista instead. That does not change the author's description of what has changed. I'd be obliged if someone would see if he missed some critical improvement(s). The ones he describes do not compel me to rush to evaluate Win 10 for myself. Some cause me to turn away. That said, I do not spurn all new technology. Our primary car is a 2012 Leaf; it shares the drive with a seldom used 2004 Prius.
    Thanks for the link to the article. Edward covers much ground there, but never once do I see him mention WinRT over Win32, save in mentioning Settings app over the legacy Control Panel. This leads me to believe heís ignorant to whatís really going on.

    The tech market has shifted in recent years. Although MS has somewhere around 93% of OSs installed on tower desktop PCs and laptops, they are far behind on mobile devices of which you know who is dominating. Although 93% looks to be a large number, the sales and ownership of tower PCs and lappy devices has decreased. MS MUST introduce an OS for mobile devices or die. Plain and simple.

    Thatís where WinRt over Win32 comes in play. Being a member of Windows Eight Forums Iíve heard it all. The most prevalent > ďWe donít need no stinkiní phone interface on a tower PC!Ē Well, yes you do because of the introduction of WinRT over Win32, of which Win32 first being an unsecure system. Second, itís a B to write code for ever increasing its vulnerability. Third, it wonít run across all devices due to hardware architecture, of which mobile devices are continuing to dominate in todayís market. Itís about what sells and always has been. When geeks start to understand the business aspect of tech and just not technical aspect, then they might get somewhere.

    Back to your subject. Is 10 worth the while? IMO yes it is even though youíre late to 7. Glad to see you and your wife reserved copies of 10. I guarantee youíll not regret it once learned. Admittedly a big step, but once learned youíll see what a navigational wonder it is because of WinRT.

    Try to learn how WinRT Store apps work in conjunction of one another as Iíve recently commented here:

    New update package on Windows Update for PC build 10240 today

    My only other device/machine is my son's 'cast off' iPhone5. Some warn in the forum about taking an abundance of caution to 'protect' the integrity of a primary computer. As I see it, I'd have to suspend all other computer use to to participate in the evaluation, probably for most of a week, given my typical learning curve. I need to be convinced of the gains I'll enjoy, that there would be few, if any losses.\
    By all means donít give up the security of your primary system. I dual boot 8.1 with 10. Although Iím ďwarming upĒ to 10, I wonít give up my 8.1 as of yet.

    Help me see what I'm missing.

    thanks

    baumgrenze
    Only you can decide that for yourself by using a system. I or others can only give opinions, but itís up to you to decide.
    Last edited by HippsieGypsie; 19 Jul 2015 at 11:50.
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  7.    19 Jul 2015 #107

    Well said, Hippsie. Nice post.
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  8.    19 Jul 2015 #108

    Wynona said: View Post
    Yep, and Windows XP is quite moldy . . . Yet folks still continue to use it for whatever reason they choose.
    Hi there

    Apart from some Networking issues (mostly fixed - but Windows any release has always had networking issues) Windows 10 works just fine (build 10240) both on a Touch device (surface pro 3 / HP touch laptop) and bog standard desktops. I'm really liking the latest build of W10.

    While W7 was a great OS it just seems hideously slow and clunky now and Touch was always a bit of a hit and miss affair.

    As far as XP is concerned - I run this daily as a VM as I have some old expensive legacy hardware which won't run on newer OS'es than XP. My XP system is making me oodles of Dosh ( I cut Vinyl records for people who want music collections etc on Vinyls) - and my cutting gear studio software needs XP to work. I'm not spending a few thousand dollars / EUR on buying new hardware when the old stuff still works really OK and will last for years yet.

    Running an XP VM on W10 is simple --and blazingly fast too -- the XP machine only needs to be allocated 1 GB RAM (and the latest VMware release dynamically allocates RAM as needed so your allocation is only the Max that the VM uses if it requires it).

    There's very valid reasons why people still run older OS'es -- so don't write of XP users all as being old Dinosaurs.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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  9.    19 Jul 2015 #109

    Will Young dinosaurs be better ?
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  10.    19 Jul 2015 #110

    Hi there

    Maybe flying Velociraptors !!!

    Cheers
    jimbo
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