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  1.    27 Jun 2015 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
    I actually think MS should tell us everything about the OS. This is their big push towards a unified OS, the last OS, the OS they want everyone to be on. Why on earth shouldn't they tell people everything?
    Nobody said they wouldn't. The question is the timing... Until they release the final, nothing is final, so anything they say could change anyways.
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  2.    27 Jun 2015 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boozad View Post
    I actually think MS should tell us everything about the OS. This is their big push towards a unified OS, the last OS, the OS they want everyone to be on. Why on earth shouldn't they tell people everything?
    And they will, Boozad, once Windows 10 reaches RTM. Until then, whatever they tell us may or may not be included in the final build. I know they're reworking (or may have already finalized) the legalities such as TOU and the EULA.

    I've been in this Technical Preview since October and there are a lot of things that were included then that aren't included now. As well, there are things included now that weren't included then. I'm sure we'll have a few unexpected "by design" idiosyncrasies that not even Microsoft will have found. So, I don't expect them to tell us about those.

    Take, for instance, the Control Panel. It's being picked apart bit by bit. There are things MIA that I've used regularly, such as Windows Update. It's not hard to find in the new "Control Panel", though. Folder Options is now File Explorer Options, but seems to give the same options. Would you call that change for the sake of change? Because I don't see any improvement in the new name.

    I don't believe Microsoft has ever told us exactly what is and isn't in any new OS. They tell us the best parts of it and hope we'll be convinced to buy it. However, this time we don't have to buy it.
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  3.    28 Jun 2015 #53
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    well, i put in my 2 here, which will not be worht much if Greece stays in the EU.....

    We can hardly expect that M.S. will give away Windows 10 and or Office 2016 for free for what reason ever.

    But if they do, we will be paying for it in another way.

    Maybe they want to make money like Apple does.....they try to squize out every penny you have also...

    So my final thought, we will be paying for Windows 10 on a yearly basis, so you will pay FOREVER.

    I hope i am wrong here

    Jeff
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  4.    28 Jun 2015 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    well, i put in my 2 € here, which will not be worht much if Greece stays in the EU.....

    We can hardly expect that M.S. will give away Windows 10 and or Office 2016 for free for what reason ever.

    But if they do, we will be paying for it in another way.

    Maybe they want to make money like Apple does.....they try to squize out every penny you have also...

    So my final thought, we will be paying for Windows 10 on a yearly basis, so you will pay FOREVER.

    I hope i am wrong here

    Jeff
    You are. See this post
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  5.    28 Jun 2015 #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffrys View Post
    well, i put in my 2 € here, which will not be worht much if Greece stays in the EU.....

    We can hardly expect that M.S. will give away Windows 10 and or Office 2016 for free for what reason ever.

    But if they do, we will be paying for it in another way.

    Maybe they want to make money like Apple does.....they try to squize out every penny you have also...

    So my final thought, we will be paying for Windows 10 on a yearly basis, so you will pay FOREVER.

    I hope i am wrong here

    Jeff
    No.. there is no service fee for Win10. What part of free are you not understanding??
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  6.    28 Jun 2015 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyJ View Post
    No.. there is no service fee for Win10. What part of free are you not understanding??
    I don't know how but MS is going to make a profit somehow. I can't see updates and/or upgrades for Windows 10 being free forever. I was getting ads in the weather app. Maybe MS is going to include ads to generate profits.
    Last edited by Winuser; 28 Jun 2015 at 12:57.
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  7.    28 Jun 2015 #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    I'm don't know how but MS is going to make a profit somehow. I can't see updates and/or upgrades for Windows 10 being free forever. I was getting ads in the weather app. Maybe MS is going to include ads to generate profits.

    Cost saving alone from having to maintain one core OS will be huge.
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  8.    28 Jun 2015 #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winuser View Post
    I'm don't know how but MS is going to make a profit somehow. I can't see updates and/or upgrades for Windows 10 being free forever. I was getting ads in the weather app. Maybe MS is going to include ads to generate profits.
    Remember that we consumers aren't the only game in town. I'll admit there are a lot of us, but we're just a drop in the bucket when it comes to revenue for Microsoft.

    Look at this page: https://www.visualstudio.com/vs-2015-product-editions For "us" there's a free Visual Studio Community edition and for corporations, there are Professional and Enterprise editions, costing $1199.00 and $5999.00 per year respectively. Corporations, large companies and some small businesses with a large number of PCs will have volume licensing of Windows 10. This is only the tip of the iceberg and as I said, "we're" just a drop in the huge ocean of revenue for Microsoft.

    Think of the number of corporations with thousands of employees subscribing to Office 365 for Business . . . At $150.00 per year per user, that's a buncha moolah! For 1000 employees, that's $150,000.00 per year!

    So, Microsoft isn't losing a whole lot by giving us a free upgrade to Windows 10. In fact, they have our enthusiasm and past work in perfecting this OS. How many of us work for large corporations? We'll either be singing Windows 10 praises or turning a thumbs down. Either way, there will be those who say, "Wait a minute here . . . let me try it for myself . . . Word of mouth is a powerful advertising gimmick and I believe that's what Microsoft will have by having gifted us in this way.
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  9.    28 Jun 2015 #59
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    @jeffrys (Jeff)

    If Microsoft did something like that with windows 10 Microsoft might get in trouble if it violates one of are laws in the U.S. I know Microsoft would never intentionally break a law.
    Last edited by groze; 28 Jun 2015 at 12:43.
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  10.    28 Jun 2015 #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    Jeff (@Bunny)

    Actually, not everyone is upgrading to windows 10 Jeff. So, Microsoft still has to support windows 7 & 8.1 for few more years. I will still be triple booting with 7, 10, Xubuntu and thanks to kind hearted person, otherwise I would of gone back to Windows 7 & Xubuntu.

    jeffry (Jeff)

    If Microsoft did something like that with windows 10 Microsoft would get in trouble with some of are laws in the U.S.
    We have what is called bait & switch law. Each state also has contract laws.
    @groze
    Just what are you even talking about?? What I was saying is that when MS is developing a single OS core for Win10 they will just have one core of code to update/modify and test. And by having that the cost will go way down. From my experience it's far easier to change code in one program than say ten.

    And what "laws" are you talking about?? Site some stuff or links to back up what you're claiming.

    And I didn't say that MS would drop support of Win7 or Win8.1 sooner.. if I did point out where I did.

    Gee..
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