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  1.    21 Jun 2015 #1
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    Settings App & UAC Off


    What's the deal with the Settings App not launching with UAC off? Is there a way around this?
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  2.    21 Jun 2015 #2
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    No. Settings is a Universal app. Universal apps do not work without UAC. Edge won't work either. Nor will probably half the OS.

    It's at the point where it's simply not possible to run without UAC anymore, and each new release will get even more so. So, you should probably just bite the bullet.
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  3.    22 Jun 2015 #3
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    Hmm, rather disappointing. I'm surprised there's not a way around it (or found) yet.
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  4.    22 Jun 2015 #4
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    Unless you have a compelling need to do otherwise it is best to use the OS as it was designed. As in real life when you force things to work otherwise there is a tendency for them to break. Apps not working is one such example. It may be possible to do what you want now but that may change with the next update of the OS. Undocumented and unsupported methods often break after an OS update.

    You can't blame Microsoft for this. For the same reason you can't blame the car manufacturer when the engine is damaged after using fuel it was not designed for.
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  5.    22 Jun 2015 #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzicman82 View Post
    Hmm, rather disappointing. I'm surprised there's not a way around it (or found) yet.
    There is no way around this. This is not an arbitrary thing where Microsoft said "Hey, let's just disable Universal apps if they have UAC turned off to mess with them". Universal apps work through the UAC mechanism, and cannot function without it. UAC apps are highly sandboxed, and this function is part of the UAC "Protected Mode" capabilities. Without it, Universal apps can't function.
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  6.    22 Jun 2015 #6
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    I finally gave in a month or two ago and leave UAC enabled but set to the lowest setting. All Apps work and I can use Settings. The one program I had that did not work correctly with UAC enabled I found a replacement for.

    Mystere was the one who gently (ha!) nudged me to do this and I've not had any problems with it so far. Very little UAC intrusion.
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  7.    22 Jun 2015 #7
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    I don't think I can survive with it on! I use a lot of AV programming apps that all require admin rights, so every time I start them I get a UAC pop-up. REALLY annoying. It might be OK if there was a way to only ask once.
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  8.    22 Jun 2015 #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzicman82 View Post
    What's the deal with the Settings App not launching with UAC off? ...
    @ muzicman82
    Curious. Obviously not recommended. Is this the UAC off you reference?
    And Settings App or Edge cannot work with UAC in the off position?

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  9.    22 Jun 2015 #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by nt62 View Post
    @ muzicman82
    Curious. Obviously not recommended. Is this the UAC off you reference?
    And Settings App or Edge cannot work with UAC in the off position?

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    Yes.

    I've ran Windows with UAC off since Vista. I don't use firewall, defender, or any other real-time protection software and NEVER get hijacks, trojans, viruses, etc. I know what I click on and don't follow links I don't trust. It's never an issue. I understand the intent of UAC but have never seen an instance were it's prevented something malicious from happening.
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  10.    22 Jun 2015 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by muzicman82 View Post
    Yes.

    I've ran Windows with UAC off since Vista. I don't use firewall, defender, or any other real-time protection software and NEVER get hijacks, trojans, viruses, etc. I know what I click on and don't follow links I don't trust. It's never an issue. I understand the intent of UAC but have never seen an instance were it's prevented something malicious from happening.
    How could you have? By your own admission, you've never used it.

    Regardless, What is shown in the pictures is not UAC off, and Settings should work just fine. That's just UAC "Quieted".
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