Windows 10: Settings App & UAC Off

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  1. Posts : 32
    Windows 10 TP / Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
       22 Jun 2015 #11

    Mystere said: View Post
    How could you have? By your own admission, you've never used it.

    Regardless, What is shown in the pictures is not UAC off, and Settings should work just fine. That's just UAC "Quieted".
    I handle all of the IT duties for the AV company I work for. That's 20 or so PCs I maintain for other people. I also handle the configuration and deployment of systems for clients and do computer work on the side for companies and individuals. I'm around more than just my own systems. While I have kept UAC off in the past, it has remained on for users that aren't "computer savvy". Of those cases, even when UAC is on, I still see issues with people picking up malware. It doesn't appear to prevent everything. Besides, if a user is easily tricked into clicking any popup to "REMOVE VIRUSES NOW", why wouldn't they just click Yes to any UAC prompt that shows up?

    If that setting is not UAC off, why did I get a popup telling me I can't use Settings with UAC off? I switched that slider back to one notch up and it worked fine. I didn't turn it off anywhere else.
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  2.    22 Jun 2015 #12

    Well, ok. I did a quick search and found out that when the slider is all the way down UAC is off.
    The slider makes a change in the registry.

    However, it is necessary to reboot after moving the slider the see the effect of UAC off.

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  3. Posts : 32
    Windows 10 TP / Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
       22 Jun 2015 #13

    nt62 said: View Post
    Well, ok. I did a quick search and found out that when the slider is all the way down UAC is off.
    The slider makes a change in the registry.

    However, it is necessary to reboot after moving the slider the see the effect of UAC off.

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    Yes, you have to reboot in Windows 7 and 8 too after changing the slider for it to be off too. I remember during some of my clean installs on Windows 7, there were problems when I would move the slider to off and then install a bunch of programs. I guess some of them thought UAC was off but it wasn't yet, so all hell broke loose, requiring surgical removal of the programs before I could re-install. It's an odd problem but after that, I always rebooted after changing UAC.
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  4. Posts : 5,012
    Windows 10 Pro X64 15063.138
       22 Jun 2015 #14

    I run with the UAC slider all the way down, it does not prevent Setting or Apps from running. What does prevent it is a registry change:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
    Key: EnableLUA
    Value data: 0
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  5.    22 Jun 2015 #15

    I must be wrong. It's not working now.
    It worked the first time ... don't know.
    Last edited by nt62; 22 Jun 2015 at 17:02.
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  6.    22 Jun 2015 #16

    Sorry everyone. I've about had it with this technical preview.
    I don't have a clue what is going on.
    I was trying to demo my point and I click on restart and all that appears is the spinning beach balls for 10 minutes. Then the wallpaper is messed up and no changes have been made to the registry.
    Spartan (edge) is a PIA trying to post. Easier with IE.

    I am out. Going back to my primary OS. (server 2012)
    In Ten Preview, items are not getting pinned when you select "pin to start"
    Nothing is getting pinned. The full screen tile page is annoying.
    No tile icons can be edited. Universal Apps most often cannot run in a window, they require full screen anyway.

    The NORMAL method of setting up a picture slide show (for wallpaper) is broken.
    Enough already.
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  7. Posts : 324
    Win 7 Pro/32, Win 10 Pro/64/32
       22 Jun 2015 #17

    Aw come on, tell us what you really think! Enough beating around the bush.

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  8. Posts : 32
    Windows 10 TP / Windows 8.1
    Thread Starter
       23 Jun 2015 #18

    Ztruker said: View Post
    I run with the UAC slider all the way down, it does not prevent Setting or Apps from running. What does prevent it is a registry change:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System
    Key: EnableLUA
    Value data: 0
    Hmm, well then why did I get that message about the Settings app anyway? I haven't gotten around to registry hacks yet... and haven't even used any tweaking apps either.

    I think, for practical purposes, most of us would refer to the slider being down as "UAC Off", where the Registry setting is "UAC Disabled". Maybe?
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  9. Posts : 5,012
    Windows 10 Pro X64 15063.138
       23 Jun 2015 #19

    All I can say for sure is with the slider all the way to the bottom and EnableLUA set to 1, I can use Settings, Store and all Apps.
    If I set EnableLUA to 0 then I cannot use any of them.
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