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  1.    18 Jun 2015 #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    alphanumeric

    There should be an answer soon to these and other questions real soon. The General Release comes out on July 29, 2015
    Yes, so why not wait until the official news hits the News section?
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  2.    18 Jun 2015 #12
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    [QUOTE=linw;258369]About 50% (or more?) of posts on this site are made up of guesses, wild guesses, wishful thinking and bad-mouthing of MS
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    I think that number is more like 80%...
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  3.    18 Jun 2015 #13
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    Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 16281

    Quote Originally Posted by cyberrufus View Post
    I'm running 8.1 Core and 10 Pro. I know my 8.1 will be upgraded to a similar version of 10. As to 10 itself, I have absolutely no expectation or reason to believe that Microsoft will just give me a free license. I would expect any upgrade to RTM they may give me to have a limited life and not include a valid license.
    My understanding, Cyber, is that any upgrade we get will have a valid license. Just as we have a "valid license" to test as Insiders, once our qualifying systems are upgraded to Windows 10, we will have a valid license to Windows 10 for the supported life of our devices.

    When you upgrade Windows 7 or 8.1 to Windows 10, the license will only be limited by the supported life of your device. IOW, if you upgrade today and your device rolls over and dies day after tomorrow, Windows 10 will die with it. However, if your device lasts five more years I would (disclaimer here) expect Windows 10 to be supported with all upgrades for five more years. The reason for the disclaimer is that so far, Microsoft hasn't defined supported life of the device. Further, I won't hazard a guess as to what that means until we hear the definition from Microsoft.

    Secondly, neither am I sure that Microsoft will give a free license to everyone who is an Insider and is testing Windows 10 Technical Preview without an existing qualifying OS. That said, I'm not saying they will and I'm not saying they won't. All I'm saying is that I don't know! Some here say yes and some say no. I say I don't know! That said, up to and including the Windows 7 beta, Microsoft historically gave one copy of the OS to those who tested. Requirements for the free Windows 7 copy were a bit more stringent than in the past, because one had to have filed at least (was it 5?) bugs before getting a free copy.

    So . . . although I'm not sure one way or the other, a precedent for free copies of the beta OS have been presented in the past and may be when Windows 10 RTMs. If this should happen (and this is completely a guess), I would expect that only those who have provided a generous amount of feedback will get a copy.
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  4.    18 Jun 2015 #14
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    I'm just wondering, what difference does it make, how the upgrade process will work? They will release the RTM and outline the steps necessary to install it. You will follow these steps and install. Why worry about it?
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  5.    18 Jun 2015 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by unifex View Post
    I'm just wondering, what difference does it make, how the upgrade process will work? They will release the RTM and outline the steps necessary to install it. You will follow these steps and install. Why worry about it?
    Smartest thing said all day, Unifex!
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  6.    18 Jun 2015 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by unifex View Post
    I'm just wondering, what difference does it make, how the upgrade process will work? They will release the RTM and outline the steps necessary to install it. You will follow these steps and install. Why worry about it?
    unifex,

    They have released that information for consumers & business but not completely for the insiders.
    The reason it matters, is some don't want to have to provided a license or key from windows 7 or 8.1 they have been testing windows 10 previews and have a clean install. (Yes, I know that license/key issue is under debate) Some also don't want to reinstall windows 7 or 8.1 when rtm comes out.
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  7.    18 Jun 2015 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    unifex,

    They have released that information for consumers & business but not completely for the insiders.
    The reason it matters, is some don't want to have to provided a license or key from windows 7 or 8.1 they have been testing windows 10 previews and have a clean install. (Yes, I know that license/key issue is under debate) Some also don't want to reinstall windows 7 or 8.1 when rtm comes out.
    Frankly, IMO... if you're not prepared to wipe everything out with each new build, you should not running beta software.

    In other words, it doesn't matter if an "insider doesn't want to reinstall something". Tough. You're running beta software. Get over it.
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  8.    18 Jun 2015 #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by groze View Post
    unifex,

    They have released that information for consumers & business but not completely for the insiders.
    The reason it matters, is some don't want to have to provided a license or key from windows 7 or 8.1 they have been testing windows 10 previews and have a clean install. (Yes, I know that license/key issue is under debate) Some also don't want to reinstall windows 7 or 8.1 when rtm comes out.
    Groze, you answered your own question when you said, "They have released that information for consumers & business but not completely for the insiders."

    If Microsoft hasn't released the information to us, it stands to reason that not even one of us will be able to answer your questions.
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  9.    18 Jun 2015 #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    Frankly, IMO... if you're not prepared to wipe everything out with each new build, you should not running beta software.

    In other words, it doesn't matter if an "insider doesn't want to reinstall something". Tough. You're running beta software. Get over it.
    Microsoft wants tester to upgrade from previous build not do clean install. A lot of fast rings release builds didn't get an iso so you have to upgrade. (Yes, you can make one but that not my point)

    In fact consumer will be required to upgraded from windows 7 or 8.1 and can do a clean install afterwords.

    I wouldn't be testing windows 10 if I had to re-install everything. I do have an image backup though.
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  10.    18 Jun 2015 #20
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    MVP's have to agree to a NDA, Non Disclosure Agreement, as do Microsoft Employee's. Even if I knew, which I don't, I couldn't tell you. Not without permission from somebody high up. This is why things are so tight lipped. If something gets leaked and it traces back to you, your in deep dodo.
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