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  1.    06 Jun 2015 #41
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    Referring to the CB, CBB, and LTSB columns in the table in post 35:

    Would a stand-alone traditional home user PC with Win 10 Pro necessarily have access to CBB and LTSB?

    Or not?

    If not, what is the advantage of Pro over Home as regards "updates"?

    I'm just unclear on whether Win 10 Pro on a stand-alone would necessarily allow you to avoid individually chosen updates indefinitely, as opposed to simply deferring.

    I'm on Win 7 Home and debating an upgrade to Pro. The only conceivable reason for me to do so would be for the changes in update functionality. Traditionally, I have accepted probably 98% of offered updates, but am uncertain how the "forced updates" thing will pan out long term for Win 10 Home users.
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  2.    06 Jun 2015 #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
    Referring to the CB, CBB, and LTSB columns in the table in post 35:

    Would a stand-alone traditional home user PC with Win 10 Pro necessarily have access to CBB and LTSB?

    Or not?

    If not, what is the advantage of Pro over Home as regards "updates"?

    I'm just unclear on whether Win 10 Pro on a stand-alone would necessarily allow you to avoid individually chosen updates indefinitely, as opposed to simply deferring.

    I'm on Win 7 Home and debating an upgrade to Pro. The only conceivable reason for me to do so would be for the changes in update functionality. Traditionally, I have accepted probably 98% of offered updates, but am uncertain how the "forced updates" thing will pan out long term for Win 10 Home users.
    CBB will receive all updates at the same pace as consumers, but allow administrators to delay non-critical updates to ensure they are suitable for their environment. < I think you need CCB to defer updates and stand alone Pro install can't get that. It's open to interpretation though, that's the problem. Somebody else may read that differently. I personally think its a Consumer versus Corporate thing, not a Home versus Pro thing. I hope I'm wrong but that's what it looks like to me.
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  3.    06 Jun 2015 #43
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    Windows 10 Pro X64

    This has been an interesting read. The forced updated concern me. I hope is stays where we can control it. MS should have more information available soon.
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  4.    06 Jun 2015 #44
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    Once again, you can't think about updates like you have in the past. You can't be concerned that Windows Updates will break your system, so you need the ability to pick and choose which updates you want.

    The new servicing model means that you can choose to be on fast or slow rings, or long term servicing rings. If you choose to be on the Fast ring, you're living on the edge, and an update could break your system. But if you are concerned about that, then you move to the slow ring in which case updates are only issued after they have been thoroughly vetted by the fast ring. The odds of an update breaking the slow ring will be very small, if ever.

    The Long Term servicing will only get Security Updates, not feature updates.

    Because of this, there is no reason to pick and choose updates, at least as far as security and features go.

    The only kink here is device drivers. Often times people want to run very specific versions of device drivers for various reasons. My understanding is that Microsoft will be separating drivers from other updates and allow you to turn driver updates on and off separately.
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  5.    06 Jun 2015 #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    The only kink here is device drivers. Often times people want to run very specific versions of device drivers for various reasons. My understanding is that Microsoft will be separating drivers from other updates and allow you to turn driver updates on and off separately.
    It looks that way to me also, because the choice for updating drivers, has been moved from Advanced System Settings, to the Settings app as of 10130.
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  6.    06 Jun 2015 #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    This has been an interesting read. The forced updated concern me. I hope is stays where we can control it. MS should have more information available soon.
    I totally agree. Forced updates would be a deal breaker for me. W8.1 Pro works just fine for my needs and it will be supported for a long time yet, so there is no need to upgrade to W10 immediately.
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  7.    06 Jun 2015 #47
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    Windows 10 Home, 64-bit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post

    The new servicing model means that you can choose to be on fast or slow rings, or long term servicing rings.

    The only kink here is device drivers. Often times people want to run very specific versions of device drivers for various reasons.
    Mystere:

    Regarding the 3 rings:

    To which of those 3 rings does a garden variety stand-alone 10 Home user have access?

    To which of those 3 rings does a garden variety stand-alone 10 Pro user have access?

    I've never even installed the Tech Preview.

    Yes--drivers is my primary concern. I got into a considerable jam a couple of years back regarding a video driver that I would not have accepted had I known the result. I wouldn't want to be forced into that on Windows 10, any version or circumstances.
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  8.    06 Jun 2015 #48
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    We don't yet know which rings Home users will have access to. However, it's a good bet that Slow will be the default if they have access to more than one.
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  9.    06 Jun 2015 #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
    We don't yet know which rings Home users will have access to. However, it's a good bet that Slow will be the default if they have access to more than one.
    Aye aye.

    Does the same answer apply to Pro in a non-corporate home environment?

    That's the key sticking point to me right now. That and the details of licensing, which is slowly trickling out.
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  10.    06 Jun 2015 #50
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    Windows 10 Pro X64

    I didn't consider the "Ring Choice" in my last post. That makes it more bearable.
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